>The problem is that you claim they *didn't* believe it.  We've showed
>you that they did believe in the Trinity.  Your argument is that they
>didn't have the *exact* wording/explication of Nicea.

The writings of these "church fathers" shows they did not believe in
the trinity you believe in today. WHAT "TRINITY" ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT?
Is Jesus a created being in your trinity or not? Very simple question.

I wrote:
Ignatius calls Almighty God "the only true God, the unbegotten and
unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the
only-begotten Son," showing the distinction between God and His Son.
He speaks of "God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." And he
declares: "There is one God, the Almighty, who has manifested Himself
by Jesus Christ His Son."

******Ignatius shows that the SON WAS NOT ETERNAL AS A PERSON BUT WAS
CREATED, for he has the Son saying: "The Lord [Almighty God] created
Me, the beginning of His ways."*****

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