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from: Matthew Johnson matthew_
date: 2005-03-23 16:03:00
subject: Re: Please...Y.COM

In article , stuart says...
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>> Please just treat each other well and with understanding. Try to be
>> good people and stop thinking that the prayer and other things will
>get
>> you into Heaven. That's not what it's about. Trust me. I've been
>there.
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>You really can't just make a staement like that and leave it at that -
>leaving yourself open for all sorts of comments!

Why are you so sure of this?

>It quite well might be a very long story - but you really should give a
>"readers digest" condensed version

And why are you so sure of THIS? His story, brief and tantalizing as it is,
remeinds me of another brief account from the Patericon of the Fathers of the
Monastery of the Caves in Kiev: a certain monk named Matthew, died and came back
from the dead. The brethren of the monastery asked him what he saw, but he
refused to say anything except "save yourselves, save yourselves!".

Even _this_ he said only after a long time (I forget just how long) of living in
isolation in his cell, fasting and praying. Just as he was about to die again
was when the brethren broke into his cell and asked the question.

> - and explain how you came to Know
>what'n'where Heaven is ~ and how you came to take a look inside.
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>and to others here - why condemn someone for saying what they do, you
>have zero way of knowing if it's true or not - Think before you
>ridicule!

Speaking of "think before you ridicule", why do you think this is
even relevant?
Are you so sure that what he posted _was_ ridicule? I certainly did not consider
it ridicule.

>  and at least assume in a christian newsgroup - that the
>majority (if not all) are honest,

Now that would not be Christian, that would just be incredibly naive!

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