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> We are discussing redhat which does brand software developed by =
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> from your earlier claims, try to keep to the subject.

ROFLMAO ....you ask someone to "try to keep to the subject"? 
You're as usual trying to divert & make up subjects via changing thread
titles to suit your position.

You chose the Red Hat Distribution as "linux" not anyone else. 
You then used 3'rd party applications (which run on multiple OS'es) as
examples where there are vulnerabilites in "linux". You then
claimed that becuase Red Hat bundles those applications, somehow RH gained
the copyright to those programs.  You have then totally failed to explain
why such a thing is not applicable to Microsoft OS'es.

However your evasion of simple questions is so noticeable that you must
have some real problems explaining if MS is going to try & seize the
copyright of any competing products the EU might require MS bundles along
with Windows.

Adam

> Rich
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> they =3D
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> redhat =3D
>> linux and not some independent release of gaim that has nothing to =
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>> included with redhat's product.  redhat does include a copyright =
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> Blimey I know MS has a history of putting it's copyright onto other =
> people's
> work (such as doublespace  Stac) but this is amazing.
> There is not an "independant release of gaim", merely a release of =
> gaim. Gaim
> is owned by the people who wrote it.=20
> So let's see if I've got this right, if Sony of Dell bundle Windows =
> with their
> product then they get to put their copyright onto Windows?
> & if the MS-EU deal resolves to including competing products then MS =
> will put
> it's copyright onto GAIM, Mozilla, Real player etc?
> That should make some lawyers very rich.
> Adam
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