>In Rev 1:17 Christ declares "I AM the first and the last."  In 1:8 the
>very same is said,

Yes this is Jesus speaking in v. 17 but NOT in v. 8. It is true that
when the angel speaks for Christ, at Revelation 1:17, he states: "I am
the First and the Last." But a check of the context shows this "First
and Last" was with definite limitations, was relative to just the
matter of Christ
Jesus' death and resurrection, as verse 18 shows. Christ was the
first one raised in the first resurrection, and the last one that will
be raised directly by Jehovah God. Others who follow in that
resurrection will be raised by God through Christ. (John 6:40; 1 Cor.
6:14) In fact, this limitation is also shown aa "First" is shown to
mean "Firstborn" by one ancient manuscript. Christ was the
firstfruits of those asleep in death. (1 Cor. 15:20) When "First and
Last" is again applied to Christ Jesus, at Revelation 2:8, note that
again it is with respect to death and resurrection. But when it speaks
thus of Jehovah no limitation is set on the meaning.Both Jehovah and
Jesus say "fisrts and the last" but they both mean different things.
Jehovah is the first God and the last God (Isaiah 44:6).

>I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and
who >was
>and who is to come, the Almighty."  This is John's Logos,

It certainly is not "John's Logos". While Jesus (via the angel) speaks
in verse 7 it is Jehovah God that speaks (via the angel) in verse 8

Look at Rev. 1:4 "John to the seven congregations that are in the
(district) of Asia: May you have underserved kindness and peace from
"The One who is, who was and who is coming"....

notice this phrase **"The One who is, who was and who is coming"**.
This person is different from those that follow....back to the verse

"...and from the seven spirits that are before the throne, and from
Jesus Christ..."

Notice that Jesus Christ is NOT THE SAME PERSON as "The One who is, who
was and who is coming".

Now look at Verse 8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God,
**"the One who is, who was
>and who is coming..."**

This is NOT Jesus but is Jehovah God alone who used the phrase "the One
who is, who was and who is coming"

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