From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:

>    I never mentioned anything about EU related speculation and would
> appreciate if you did not try to put words into my mouth.
>

ROFLMAO. Really not like you try & put words into the mouth of others
to the degree of even changing the subject lines of posts....

So mention it then Rich. If MS proposes to include "competing
products" will MS be writing the fixes for other people's software?


>    It's fun to see you flip flop again as you try to spin.  So now you
> say that sun is responsible for releasing security fixes for software
> tehyrelease for which they do not own the copyright such as gnome.  Why
> the flip flop?
>

Playing at sophistry agin Rich?  I never had a problem with distributors
distibuting fixes. What I have a problem with is crap like this "It's
not that linux is not full of problems, it's that virtually no one
cares" where the problems are not linux problems but GAIM or Mutt
problems.

>    Why don't you think that redhat is responsible for releasing security
> fixes for software it releases as part of its readhat linux 9 product
> such as gaim?  Redhat thinks they are.

Red Hat are a linux distributor. I can choose a mini-distrib which comes
with some base tools. I can then say there are no problems with the vast
majority of your spurious "linux" problems.

> In fact, you seem to be the only
> one here claiming that vendors like your employer sun and redhat are not
> responsible for the code they ship in their products.
>

Nope. You're the one making the leap from a distribution to linux per se.
The recent memmap thing is a linux problem. A problem with Gaim is a
problem with GAIM & given the same version is available for windows
then it is either a GAIM problem or a Linux problem, a windows problem
etc.etc. for as many different ports there are for that version.

So is the recent problem with GAIM a windows problem?

If so then MS have been very remiss in not issuing a security advisory
& indeed in not offering it's customers a fixed version.

Adam

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