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to: Tom De Puysseleyr
from: Wilfred van Velzen
date: 2013-12-03 10:18:34
subject: Re: fmail not packing crash-netmail?

Hi Tom,

On 03 Dec 13 08:07, Tom De Puysseleyr wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
  about: "Re: fmail not packing crash-netmail?":

 WV>> My crash.bat contains the following line:

 WV>> c:\fd\Fmail\FMailW32.exe pack * /C

 TDP> I am still having some questions about this. In my batch-file that's
 TDP> executed after I write netmail, I use the above command. When I write a
 TDP> normal (routed) netmail and pack it like that, it creates a .flo file for
 TDP> the destination instead of following the packing rules in fsetup. Is it
 TDP> supposed to do that?

I found that out the hardway myself. :-/

For regular routed netmail you first have do a "normal" pack:

c:\fd\Fmail\FMailW32.exe pack

This leaves the netmails with crash status alone. You could have this
followed by the line with /C in your automatic batch files. I have a
seperate batch file for crashing netmails, that I only use manual, as I
don't often send crash netmails...

 TDP> Also, Michiel let me know that I delivered a normal netmail directly
 TDP> to him this way, but that it wasn't processed because it was packed
 TDP> and his system doesn't process these packed mails (without password)
 TDP> for security reasons.

Most do it this way. My system as well. I have to manually check my
non-secure inbound directory for mail packets that aren't processed. I
don't do this often because I hardly get any. And that's why I haven't
automated it. So there could be a delay if people send me mail this way...
;)

 TDP> In fmail I saw in the node manager that there's a switch to specify
 TDP> if netmail should be packed or not. But I didn't see a general switch
 TDP> for nodes not in the node manager. This means that when I send a
 TDP> netmail to anyone in the nodelist (and who is not in my node manager
 TDP> in fmail), that netmail will be packed, and will not be processed by
 TDP> these secure systems. Am I right?

There is a clue about this in de FMail doc:

4.4       Pack

[...] Packing messages is not required (but sometimes
useful) in e.g. a FrontDoor environment. It _is_ required in a
Binkley/PoP environment.

So if you want to send your crash netmails unpacked, unfortunately you have
to use something else than FMail. Or do some processing after FMail creates
such a packed packet.

I'm not sure why this is. If it's a thing that can't be avoided, or
something that the original author of FMail choose to do this way. I
haven't looked into it...

Wilfred.

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