> Nothing to do with theology but scripture itself. Either you believe
> the Bible contradicts itself or you realize that Enoch being "taken"
or
> "transferred" does not mean he didn't die.

>The fallacy of the false dilemma.  Those aren't the only two choices.

They most certainly are chap. Either Enoch died or he did not.

>In the Greek, Jesus is saying that no one has ascended by their own
>direct action and power

not according to how the Greek word "anabaino" is used throughout
scripture:

Luke 19:28
John 1:51
John 3:13
John 20:17
Acts 2:34
Acts 25:1
Ephe 4:8,9,10
Rev. 8:4
Rev. 11:7,12
Rev. 14:11

in NONE of these verses do we see a clear usage of "anabaino" as you
say. No disnction between ascending voluntarily or unvoluntarily.

> So if Enoch was not in heaven where was he?

>The place of the righteous dead.

and what's that?..where is it?

>Whatever the case the Bible says that nobody had gone to heaven
> prior to 33 c.e.

>The Bible says nothing of the kind.

Sure it does. John 3:13.

>Where in Scripture does it say that the
>Most Holy Place is equivalent to all of heaven?

heaven is heaven in this respect as it involved the New Covenant which
included persons would be bought from the earth to rule with Christ

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