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basicallyblues wrote: > > And God said:[sg] 'Let us make[pl] man in our image, after > >our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of > >the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, > >and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing > >that creepeth upon the earth.' (Gen 1:26 JPS) > > God was evidently talking to the Word (Jesus). No, what is evident is that you do not understand Hebrew. > The Word (Jesus) was like God- A vague reference to Jn 1:1b. This is evidence that you do not know Greek either. What is the Greek preposition used here? What is its grammatical purpose? "With" denotes relationship to, or accompanyment with, that is, it emphasizes distinction among equals. Then in 1:1c, John purposefully leaves out the definite article because if he had used it, it would have made this clause state that Jesus, and Jesus alone (singularity) was God. No Trinitarian (nor John) holds this. Rather, as I'm sure your rote teachers have indoctrinated you against, the anarthrous denotes essence. IF you wish to look at a previous discussion, let me point you to: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.religion.christian.bible-study/browse_frm/thread/5b70f5ef6b023a4e?scoring=d&q=%22a5124o$rt6$1{at}bob.news.rcn.net%22 > a spiritual being possessed of intelligence- as were all the > angels. God created man through the Word (Jesus) "through" as in "agent." This is in perfect keeping with John's use of "logos." "No man has seen God at anytime." The Logos is the eternal "agent" of the Godhead. God is spirit. The second Person became (ingressive aorist) incarnate -eternally. We may never see either the Father or the Spirit except via typifications or symbols. But when we see Christ we see the "exact representation" of God. ONLY the Infinite/Personal can exactly reprepresent the "Infinite/Personal" or it/he too fails the first 3, if not 4 commandments. > and made man in his > "image"- an intelligent creature endowed with free will- with God's > main attributes: love, justice, wisdom & power. Did you purposefully forget the third element? Emotion? And what occured at the fall? These three aspects of personhood lost their harmony. If they do not operate as a tri-unity, they are disharmonious, and therefore anti-god in nature. Again, your singularity does not conform to not only the constructs of the uni-verse, but neither does it conform to the constructs of personhood. Love: requires relationship (multiple persons) as does Law/Justice. Also, the offices of the Trinity reflect personhood. The Father "will", the Son's "wisdom" and the Spirits "(e)motion." >There is absolutely NO > hint at any polytheism or pagan trinity here. > Couldn't agree with you more because Trinitarianism was completely unknown to man and therefore never existed until Christ revealed it after His incarnation. ((( s.r.c.b-s is a moderated group. All posts are approved by a moderator. ))) ((( Read http://srcbs.org for details about this group BEFORE you post. ))) --- UseNet To RIME Gateway {at} 3/14/05 8:56:54 AM ---* Origin: MoonDog BBS þ Brooklyn,NY 718 692-2498 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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