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date: 2005-03-14 08:57:00
subject: Re: God, & who is `us`?

basicallyblues wrote:
> > And God said:[sg] 'Let us make[pl] man in our image, after
> >our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of
> >the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
> >and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing
> >that creepeth upon the earth.'  (Gen 1:26 JPS)
>
> God was evidently talking to the Word (Jesus).

No, what is evident is that you do not understand Hebrew.

> The Word (Jesus) was like God-

A vague reference to Jn 1:1b.  This is evidence that you do not know
Greek either.  What is the Greek preposition used here?  What is its
grammatical purpose?  "With" denotes relationship to, or accompanyment
with, that is, it emphasizes distinction among equals.  Then in 1:1c,
John purposefully leaves out the definite article because if he had
used it, it would have made this clause state that Jesus, and Jesus
alone (singularity) was God.  No Trinitarian (nor John) holds this.
Rather, as I'm sure your rote teachers have indoctrinated you against,
the anarthrous denotes essence.

IF you wish to look at a previous discussion, let me point you to:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.religion.christian.bible-study/browse_frm/thread/5b70f5ef6b023a4e?scoring=d&q=%22a5124o$rt6$1{at}bob.news.rcn.net%22

> a spiritual being possessed of intelligence- as were all the
> angels. God created man through the Word (Jesus)

"through" as in "agent."  This is in perfect keeping
with John's use of
"logos."  "No man has seen God at anytime."  The Logos
is the eternal
"agent" of the Godhead.  God is spirit.  The second Person became
(ingressive aorist) incarnate -eternally.  We may never see either the
Father or the Spirit except via typifications or symbols.  But when we
see Christ we see the "exact representation" of God.  ONLY the
Infinite/Personal can exactly reprepresent  the "Infinite/Personal" or
it/he too fails the first 3, if not 4 commandments.

>  and made man in his
> "image"- an intelligent creature endowed with free will- with God's
> main attributes: love, justice, wisdom & power.

Did you purposefully forget the third element?  Emotion?  And what
occured at the fall?  These three aspects of personhood lost their
harmony.  If they do not operate as a tri-unity, they are
disharmonious, and therefore anti-god in nature.  Again, your
singularity does not conform to not only the constructs of the
uni-verse, but neither does it conform to the constructs of personhood.

Love:  requires relationship (multiple persons) as does Law/Justice.

Also, the offices of the Trinity reflect personhood.  The Father
"will", the Son's "wisdom" and the Spirits "(e)motion."

>There is absolutely NO
> hint at any polytheism or pagan trinity here.
>
Couldn't agree with you more because Trinitarianism was completely
unknown to man and therefore never existed until Christ revealed it
after His incarnation.

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