Bart Goddard wrote:
> lsenders{at}hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Bart Goddard wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I cite, again, "ALL Scripture is written for OUR learning."
> >> Each verse is for every man.  It's plain.  It's simple.
> >> It's straighforward.  Nobody can read a verse of the Bible and
> >> then assert this verse wasn't written for him.
> >>
> > And again you fail to distinquish between application and
> > interpretation.  It is a fundamental error.
>
> You can try to hide behind platitudes, but I'm not failing
> at all here.  (If I were trying to convince you of something,
> then I might be failing, but I'm smarter than to try to
> teach a pig to sing.)
>
> The bottom line is, (and this is exactly what I said)
> your nonsense where you try to dodge verses you don't like
> by saying they were written for someone else won't make
> good theology no matter how you slice it, or what sort of
> smugness you try to hide behind.
>
> I promise you:  Everyone on this newsgroup sees right through
> you and the false airs you put on.
>
Bart, if you could stop posturing for once, and stop presuming that
everyone opperates off of your own mental orientation, then perhaps a
discussion could proceed.  "Hiding beind platitudes" reveals how you
perceive life, not how I do.   It matters little to me what you think
of me.  What matters is that people gain true truth.  And if we are to
do just that, we must stop looking at the Bible as some "magical"
charm.  What you are suggesting is really a devotional stance.  Nothing
wrong with that per say except that it does not promise to gain us the
true truth of Scripture, only our emotional wantings.  Our hearts need
this or that "truth" made real to us.  We seek verification in His
Word.  But we do not consider what the Scriptures are truly saying,
only what we want them to say.  After a time, this little self-serving
paradigm bears fruit.   All too often, it makes hearts grow cold for
there is the internal recognition that we've made the bible truth
relative.  If you can make it say what you want it to say, even if we
gain great emotional highs from it, in the end it is just relativism.
It's just another self-indulgent trip.

Counter to this is true bible study.  Why should we think that we need
Bible colleges and seminaries if all we have to do is what you suggest?
 Rather, bible study takes a great deal of work if we are to glean the
original intent of the writer as inspired by the Spirit.  If we follow
your paradigm, then we can throw away our Greek and Hebrew study
manuals, our bible interpretation manuals, do away with our Bible
colleges and seminaries, because, after all, anyone can mine the same
gold just by reading our KJV bible in our Western 20th C cultural
mindset and definitions.

Sorry, Bart.  That just doesn't cut the mustard.  Use some of the logic
you're oh so found of parading in front of your supposed students and
us here.  Just as there are rules in logic, just so there are rules of
interpretation.  In fact, I think that is what rubs you the most.
Bible study methodology does not rest on logic.  Get over it.  Grow up.
 Move on.

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