From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: graemecree{at}aol.com
Subject: Re: The alt.tv.star-trek.tos FAQ

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:06:16 PM UTC-6, Wiseguy wrote:
> No, because Baywatch is obviously inferior to any Star Trek by most 
That's what I said.  Are opinions okay if they're commonly held.  So you're
saying No, but your answer means Yes.
This is a TOS group, though.  It's not required to watch Enterprise at all,
much less have an opinion about it.
 
> I think Kor was talking more about attitudes and such and not 
> appearances. Kor wouldn't have shown shame to Kirk anyway.  But he did 
> show up with the ridges on DS9 so either he was affected by the 
> experiment or else he had cosmetic surgery because he wanted the ridges.
Yeah, Kor had ridges in Blood Oath.  But no explanation was given then.
> Since many Trek fans hate Enterprise for various reasons, they 
> immediately cite the last episode as showing that Enterprise wasn't 
> real.
Not just Enterprise.  Voyager retconned most of itself away in its final
episode.  The idea originates with the writers and producers of the show,
not fans who are somehow being unfair by not liking everything called Trek.
I'm sure they have some decent historical records, but I doubt they'd be at
the level of detail of a TV episode, unless Big Brother completely rules in
those days.  If it's a historical novel, probably a lot of little details
are embellished.
> Certainly the writers/producers wouldn't even hint at Enterprise not 
> being real in an actual Enterprise episode.
That's your opinion, of course, not a fact.  Just reminding you that you
started out as anti-opinion.  A lot of people have a different opinion
though, and think that Berman and Braga did EXACTLY that, in order to thumb
their nose at the fans and franchise for pulling the plug on Enterprise. 
("Okay, if you don't like it, we're wiping out the whole thing").
> Just fanwanking by haters 
> of Enterprise who refuse to see what actually is shown onscreen.
Okay, I gather that you regard all criticism of Enterprise as inherently
unfair, and are absolutely wedded to the ad hominem fallacy that anyone who
dislikes it for any reason is a hater.  (So much for the comment about
"anyone who understands logic").  I tend to ignore it more than
hate it, for the reason that it just wasn't very good, and was a continuity
nightmare.  Everything that Kirk did first, they tried to retcon into
claiming that Archer did it first.  If everyone who dislikes it is a hater,
is everyone who likes it a groupie?  Be fair.
As you say, we must see what is shown onscreen.  And what we saw was that
the show was a historical novel.
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