BL> Bill is the most experienced one here with modems.

RS> Who ended up face down in the much when he proclaimed that the
RS> handshaking problems he saw with the Spirit would go away instantly
RS> when the Spirit was replaced with ANYTHING else, and ended up looking
RS> pretty fucking silly indeed when the problem got HEAPS worse when it was.

BG> Oh crap.  At 14400 V.32bis, the problem DID disappear.

Faking. You proclaimed that it absolutely had to be a fault in the
Spirit. Odd that you saw far worse handshake failures with no Spirit
present. In fact the total collection of evidence actually shows that
with your rather poor line you can get handshaking failures with a
variety of USRs calling a variety of non USRs and that USR appears to
have fixed that with the latest Sportster rom. That explains why Brenton
and Bob never saw any handshaking failures at V32bis to the Spirit.

Tho clearly its not unique to USRs since I used to get a
tiny number of handshaking failures to the Spirit myself.

RS> Who also proclaimed that the handshaking problem must certainly be
RS> due to Pauls 'poor line' or user error or both, and ended up looking
RS> damned silly indeed when a Sportster rom change fixed that, and even
RS> sillier when an M34F/M34F pair didnt show it on those calls either.

BG> And who could have said nothing about the EPROM change, but
BG> in the interests of accuracy of testing, told it like it was.

Sure, no one has ever suggested that you are deliberately dishonest
like Bob often is. Clearly tho, when you proclaim on where the fault
lies with a particular undesirable symptom, you are often leaping to
unwarranted conclusions based on an inadequate analysis of the evidence.

BG> Who would have thought that a simple change of ROM code could
BG> have made such a vast difference, especially when the previous
BG> THREE EPROMs were almost identical in performance ?

All that proves is that the deficiency in the code which produced
those handshake failures when the Sportster is used on a line with
the characteristics that yours has, was present in those three and
got fixed in the last one. And there is evidence that it was even
in the V32bis Sportster since only you saw significant handshaking
failures to the Spirit, Bob and Brenton did not. You also saw some
on Jacks line which isnt exactly brilliant either.

Its actually a graphic demonstration of how careful you have to
be when trying to work out which modem has the problem in field
testing of modems. Its JUST that difficult situation that sorts
out who can do that most difficult fault diagnosis from those
who too readily jump to conclusions based on inadequate evidence.

RS> Who also proclaimed that there must be something fundamentally
RS> fucked with pauls line because he never saw any problems with
RS> V34 modems when testing hundreds of them at CHH, but who ended
RS> up face down in the mud AGAIN, when he discovered he had EVEN
RS> WORSE problems calling CHH himself from his own home line.

BG> Not my fault that my own bad lines weren't obvious
BG> until I started calling others with less-than-perfect
BG> lines, where the problem was compounded.

The point tho is that you didnt have the EVIDENCE that
Pauls line was fucked when you proclaimed that it must be.

RS> That should tell you something about his analytical capabilitys.

BG> Go fuck yourself.

Charming |-)
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