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to: Geo.
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-03-02 07:06:26
subject: Re: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-051.html

> From: "Geo." 
> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
> news:809386.616af5{at}harborwebs.com...
>> I am equally happy to say that a linux hole is one which applies to all
>> linux distribs of a given kernel or kernels where the hole exists in
>> the base level  linux & that the same is applied to windows.
> This is where we have a disagreement. A directory services exploit is
> discovered, DS is only part of W2Kserver and Server2003, it is not part of
> XPhome, XPpro, W2kpro or Embedded NT. I STILL CONSIDER THIS A WINDOWS
> EXPLOIT. Don't you?

The problem I have is that "Windows" is a marketing name applied
to everything from Windows 1.0 through to WinXP & Win2KS3. It's simply
not a single OS but a whole raft of em from a DOS Shellto NT to WinCE. It's
like saying that because IBM supports Linux hence they could market
AIX,OS400,OS390 & PCDOS as "linux". Linux is an operating
system where Windows is a maleable marketing term.

i.e in the case of MS it's all "Windows" (for marketing terms).
However if there is a hole that affects all reasonably modern versions
(i.e. thouse still likely to be in use) then it's a Windows hole. If it
affects all the NT versions then it's a Windows NT hole. If it only affects
XP then it's an XP hole. 

Take your example & see it from another direction. If It only affect
Win2KS & I have XP then I could argue that since I am running Windows
& I don't have that vuln then there is no "windows" vuln coz
I have "Windows" & yet I don't have a vuln.

Do I need to patch my Windows system if I'm running XP & it's a DS
vuln?  Do I need to patch a WindowsCE powered smartphone? A WinCE PDA? I am
after all running windows hence according to you I must have a vuln.

Adam

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