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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-03-01 22:01:12
subject: Re: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-051.html

From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:

I removed it for the same reason I didn't quote the MS EULA. Do you want me
to quote them? Pointless waste of bandwidth (Ok so that's par for the
course with you).


Answer some of the questions I've asked instead of diverting constantly as
I have answered diverting question after diverting question whereas all you
do is pose another question.

Then again given you can confuse an operating system with an instant
message client it's probably not surprizing that you can't answer simple
questions.

Adam



>    I see you removed the text under discussion.  Please comment on the
> following from your employer sun's EULA for its proprietary java
> product.  Maybe by explaining this we can see what you are spinning when
> you touch on the same from your employer's competitors.  Note in
> particular that your employer disclaims all responsibility for its
> product including the need to provide any fixes and even that it is
> suitable for any purpose.  Also note that unlike your earlier nonsense
> claims, Sun does claim copyright on this code for which it disclaims
> responsibility.  You can't even claim that they are just redistributing
> someone else's code.
>
>




>
>       3.  DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY.  You acknowledge that Software
>       may contain errors and is not designed or intended for use
>       in on-line control of aircraft, air traffic, aircraft
>       navigation or aircraft communications; or in the design,
>       construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear
>       facility ("High Risk Activities"). Sun and its licensors
>       disclaim any express or implied warranty of fitness for
>       such uses.  You represent and warrants to Sun that it will
>       not use, distribute or license the Software for High Risk
>       Activities.  SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS".  ALL EXPRESS OR
>       IMPLIED CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES,
>       INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS
>       FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR NON-INFRINGEMENT ARE
>       DISCLAIMED, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT THAT THESE DISCLAIMERS ARE
>       HELD TO BE LEGALLY INVALID.
>
>       4.  LIMITATION OF LIABILITY.  TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED
>       BY LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL SUN OR ITS LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR
>       ANY LOST REVENUE, PROFIT OR DATA, OR FOR SPECIAL, INDIRECT,
>       CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, HOWEVER
>       CAUSED REGARDLESS OF THE THEORY OF LIABILITY, ARISING OUT
>       OF OR RELATED TO THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE SOFTWARE,
>       EVEN IF SUN HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
>       DAMAGES.  In no event will Sun's liability to you, whether
>       in contract, tort (including negligence), or otherwise,
>       exceed the amount paid by you for Software under this
>       Agreement.  The foregoing limitations will apply even if
>       the above stated warranty fails of its essential purpose.
>
>
> Rich
>
>
>     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
>     news:009385.616631{at}harborwebs.com...
>      > From: "Rich" 
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>      > If you want legal advice ask a lawyer.  Personally I think you are =
>      > still being a clueless idiot or simply continuing your tradition
>     as a =
>      > propagandist.
>
>     Nah I leave both those to you as you are obviously so naturally
>     talented at
>     them.
>
>
>      > Maybe you can comment on the following from your employer Sun's
>     EULA =
>      > for java, you know, that proprietary product of your employer
>     that you =
>      > spin often.  My guess is that this is the kind of stuff you are
>     trying =
>      > to spin.
>
>     More diversion Rich? You have yet to answer a single question. If in
>     doubt
>     divert & then if found out go for the ad hominem. If that doesn't work
>     desperately keep diverting.
>
>     As an example, what you quoted  doesn't change the fact that the MS EULA
>     specifically excludes all responsibility. It doesn't change the fact
>     that GAIM
>     is not Linux.
>
>     When you feel like dealing with facts & answering questions instead of
>     dissembling, diverting & otherwise making like a gyroscope, let me know.
>
>     Adam

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