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echo: locsysop
to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-03-31 07:58:48
subject: 0011 problems

BG> the M34F here connected with your M34F at 26400, both times.

RS> Hardly what you might call definitive stats Bill.

BG> Which is PRECISELY what I said in that part of my message which
BG> you so conveniently deleted.  Selective quoting?  Nah, no way.  :)

Faking Bill, you ALSO said

    BG> but it's clear that a USR-USR link is superior to any other
    BG> combination. Nobody has ever been able to dispute that.

Fraid its nothing like clear from the evidence of two calls.

RS> AND you really need to actually transfer a decent sized file
RS> and compare the CPS achieved with M34F/M34F and USR/USR with
RS> >28800 disabled to really be able to say which does better
RS> since the carrier rate can change, and its even possible
RS> to get a higher CPS rate at a lower carrier rate too.

BG> Yeah, I know all that.

So why did you wave around the carrier rate of just TWO calls and
claim it proved that the M34F/M34F was worse than USR/USR on calls
between your line and Pauls ?  It proves sweet fuck all basically.

BG> As I invariably see 28800 connects since upgrading
BG> the Sportster's EPROM, I can only surmise that under
BG> these line conditions, USR-M34F is better than M34F-M34F.

RS> Soorree, again, a wild claim based on totally inadequate EVIDENCE.

BG> Look up SURMISE (the word I used above) in your dog's dictionary,

No thanks, I know what it means. You dont have the evidence to sustain
that surmise. Largely because two calls M34F/M34F indicates fuck all
when the initial connect rate is so useless as a measure of the session.

BG> and you might realise that I wasn't CLAIMING anything of the sort,

You were claiming to have some basis for your surmising. You didnt have
that. It was just zealotry talking. Thats not a surmise, thats zealotry.

BG> and I've already stated that those 2 calls were virtually
BG> worthless for anything other than a quick check.

Only after your nose was rubbed in the fact that your claim in the
indented para was rabid zealotry with no basis in evidence whatever.

BG> About the only thing that can be said is
BG> that 2 test calls is better than none at all.

On the initial connect rate alone, even those two calls dont prove much.
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