* An ongoing debate between Mike Luther and Ben Ritchey rages on ...

| ML> OK, if you do have an emulator and I can get a copy of it, then the
| ML> next issue seems to pop up out of the rabbit patch!  I've got one more

Yes, I have the 22Nice emulator for CP/M v2.2 and you're welcome to a copy.

| ML> every time you boot it.  In the cursory 'what do I do' question I
| ML> asked on it, where is the BIOS battery that I looked for and did not
| ML> find, I got an answer.  The thought is that it has one of these big
| ML> BIOS modules with the built-in battery in it.  Haven't taken that

Probably right there under the chip itself, imbedded in the bottom  or
disguised as a large capacitor 

| ML> Yes, I still have a plug-in pair of 8" floppy drives for the Z120 box.

Same here  pair of 1.2MB 8" from a Tandy system that ran CP/M and DOS

| ML> OK .. if I boot to DOS, then are we talking creating the CONFIG.SYS
| ML> and whatever to, perhaps, try to patch whatever floppy disk drive

No, no, keep it simple. The emulator should support a way of dumping files to
DOS as simple as doing a copy of sorts . If you can boot DOS on any machine
that supports the floppy drive you want to migrate, try 22Disk 1st:

22Disk Version 1.44, October, 1996 From Sydex, Inc. 22Disk is a DOS utility
that allows one to read, write and format over 400 different CP/M diskette
formats.  It includes a definitions file which also allows you to "roll your
own" format specifications for systems not included in the list.

Docs claim it is fully functional and not crippled in any way.

| ML> Or, are we perhaps better off to use what will be the BBS program for
| ML> Fido that I'm sure is on this older Heath DOS box,  Connect to the
| ML> Fido interface here with a modem.  Send the file data that way?

Hey, sounds workable to me 

| ML> I also have paid for copies of LapLink and so on for DOS.  I actually
| ML> have LapLink on the modern boxes.  It is serial cable or parallel
| ML> connectible.  And the simplest thing would be to move the data to the
| ML> real modern world from the Heath DOS box this way?

Ugh...cables, last resort.

| ML> Since you mentioned the emulator, you've also opened up a huge other
| ML> possibility for this job!  I'm a solid OS/2 operation here.  Which, of
| ML> course, has DOS in it that is, in my opinion, far better than DOS,
| ML> grin! I wonder? Will this Emu (chuckle) pull it's head out and run
| ML> under DOS in OS/2?

I bet 22Nice will ...

| ML> Will tells me that under OS/2, if you properly modify the floppy
| ML> diskette device driver with the correct command line additional
| ML> parameters, you can cajol OS/2 into customizing the floppy diskette
| ML> interface for whatever track and sector size is needed!  He told me

Yes, MS-DOS itself (I run v6.22) has the DRIVPARM command for Config.Sys that
allows you to customize drives this way.

| ML> Now .. grin .. in that you've mentioned the issue of the Emu running
| ML> under DOS, I'm wondering BIG time here!
| ML> Might the real simplest way to play this stunt is to take a current
| ML> OS/2 box? Cram the floppy disk drive track and sector count for even
| ML> the oldest possible interface I need for, say, the 5-1/4 inch floppy
| ML> drive in the OS/2 CONFIG.SYS? Plug it in and boot up OS/2?  Then run
| ML> the Emu you suggest under OS/2?  And get to see CPM/86 run that way?

If you know OS/2 that well, this sounds easy enough, though the simplest would
be the 22Disk utility.

Holler via E-mail with what you need and I'll send it along. my E-mail is
(1){at}(2).(3)  where (2)= bellsouth (1)= fido4cmech and (3)= net ...

My CP/M emulators area also contains:

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 Area: CP/M-86, Emulators + Software

 144CPM86.ZIP     149,131  09-12-01    23:37:04
 144FEAT2.ZIP      85,298  12-02-00    16:59:10
 1STMAN.ZIP       164,717  08-04-03    04:54:36
 86-GRAFX.ZIP     136,811  01-20-01    21:57:04
 86-Y2K.ZIP         7,569  01-20-01    21:57:10
 86ARKIVE.ZIP     154,427  11-04-00    08:13:52
 86AUDIO.ZIP        4,271  11-04-00    08:40:16
 86COMUTL.ZIP      68,989  01-20-01    22:01:30
 86CPMUTL.ZIP     134,224  01-20-01    22:02:32
 86EDIT.ZIP        50,696  11-04-00    08:15:44
 86EMULAT.ZIP      44,921  11-04-00    08:33:00
 86FILUTL.ZIP     295,010  03-04-01    12:43:16
 86KBDDSK.ZIP      96,348  01-20-01    22:05:02
 86MISC.ZIP        31,934  01-20-01    22:05:18
 86MISC2.ZIP       21,063  06-02-01    15:18:52
 86SPREAD.ZIP      28,609  12-02-00    17:00:44
 86SUBMIT.ZIP       6,586  04-14-01    03:04:52
 86SYSUTL.ZIP       8,058  01-20-01    22:06:04
 86VIDEO.ZIP       54,727  04-14-01    10:01:40
 86VIDUTL.ZIP      28,005  01-20-01    22:06:18
 ASM80.ZIP         26,797  01-20-01    22:07:00
 BASCOM.ZIP       157,003  02-26-01    00:43:00
 BINARY.HTM        32,930  08-04-03    02:14:34
 BINARY.TXT        31,909  08-04-03    04:56:48
 CBASIC86.ZIP      94,100  01-20-01    22:35:08
 CCGAMES.ZIP      192,409  02-26-01    00:42:52
 COBOL80.ZIP      129,477  01-20-01    22:58:10
 CPM2-ASM.ZIP      60,525  01-20-01    23:02:36
 CPM2-HTM.ZIP     405,900  10-11-02    01:11:06
 CPM86-BT.ZIP     236,324  01-20-01    23:50:50
 CPM86PAT.ZIP      11,932  01-20-01    23:55:58
 CPMEMU.ZIP        39,565  01-20-01    23:56:36
 CPMEXPER.HTM      13,922  08-04-03    02:23:10
 CPMEXPER.TXT      13,105  08-04-03    04:56:46
 CPMHIST.HTM       11,339  08-04-03    02:39:30
 CPMHIST.TXT       11,013  08-04-03    04:56:48
 CPMTAB.HTM         4,931  08-04-03    02:23:46
 CPMTAB.TXT         3,743  08-04-03    04:56:46
 CPM_FAQ.HTM       91,948  08-04-03    03:21:20
 CPM_FAQ.TXT       90,501  08-04-03    04:56:48
 CVV.ZIP           72,197  08-01-01    13:12:08
 CVVMKBO.ZIP       21,120  03-02-02    18:27:40
 DBASE86.ZIP      188,181  02-26-01    00:42:50
 DIS.COM            8,448  02-26-01    00:42:56
 DRILIB.HTM        12,470  08-04-03    02:18:02
 DRILIB.TXT        11,375  08-04-03    04:56:46
 DUF05.ZIP         26,708  05-18-03    18:08:32
 F80.ZIP          103,544  02-26-01    00:42:54
 FV28D.ZIP         34,338  01-21-01    00:39:20
 FX86.ZIP          73,065  01-21-01    00:39:58
 KLAWFILE.HTM      27,323  08-04-03    02:58:24
 KLAWFILE.TXT      26,445  08-04-03    04:56:50
 L80.COM           10,752  02-26-01    00:42:56
 LANG.HTM           7,694  08-04-03    03:11:28
 LANG.TXT           7,800  08-04-03    04:56:48
 M80.COM           20,096  02-26-01    00:42:54
 MBASIC.COM        24,320  02-26-01    00:42:56
 MSCOBOL.ZIP      226,696  02-26-01    00:42:58
 PATCH.HTM          4,402  08-04-03    03:02:08
 PATCH.TXT          4,120  08-04-03    04:56:48
 POWER.COM         14,848  03-02-01    01:57:00

 PUTR201.ZIP      242,944  01-29-04    06:41:14
         PUTR v2.01 (Peripheral Utility Transfer
          Routines) is a File Transfer Program that
          supports DEC PDP-8/11 media & DOS File
          Systems: RT-11, RSTS/E, DOS/BATCH, XXDP+,
          OS/8 (and OS/78 etc.), PUTR (TSS/8 DECtape
          utility), and PC-DOS.  PUTR can also read
          Files-11 ODS-1 file systems (i.e. disks
          from RSX-11M, RSX-11M-PLUS, IAS, and P/OS)
          and TSS/8.24 file systems). COS-310 binary
          files (NOT Text) may be transferred the
          same as OS/8 binary files. Real mode devices
          and/or virtual image files supported.
          Assembly source code included.
           http://www.dbit.com

 RDOS.ZIP         120,751  09-12-01    23:15:10
 SARGON.ZIP         8,231  02-26-01    00:42:52
 TOOLS86.ZIP      196,276  01-21-01    04:47:26
 VF86-B1.ZIP       39,735  01-21-01    04:57:34
 WS86-33.ZIP      104,969  02-26-01    00:44:50
 XRD.ZIP           28,094  11-04-00    08:02:26
 ZRPM-DOS.ZIP     241,881  09-12-01    23:19:02
 ZRPM.ZIP         118,013  09-12-01    23:19:40
 ZRPMSRC.ZIP      204,001  09-12-01    23:20:44
 ZRT80.ZIP      1,983,612  02-26-01    00:43:02

 Area sub-total                                       Files           Bytes
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  ~~~~~   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 CP/M-86, Emulators + Software.......................     72       7,445,216

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