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echo: classic_computer
to: JIM STENZEL
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2005-07-12 22:19:00
subject: 486sx20

JS> Good for you!

 JS> For a long time I was using an old '486. My method of using
 JS> it to connect to remote systems all over was through a
 JS> freeware terminal program (BCOM.EXE) which had been posted
 JS> on the local dial-up BBS in my area preloaded with the
 JS> local dial-up BBS numbers.

 Used to use that too. It was short for banana comm.

 JS> The local dial-up BBS offers internet email and has two
 JS> methods of going outbound telnet to other BBSs.

 I used to use toltbbs as my bbs. Did telnet and FTP.

 JS> Both of those ways are "doors" on the Wildcat! BBS
 JS> software.  The one I use exclusively is the Wildcat! BBS
 JS> list door.  That's because if I find out the i.p. of some
 JS> other telnettable system I can add it to the list and
 JS> whoever uses the BBS this way can go there too, as well as
 JS> me.

 JS> Of course, this all depends on the BBS remaining in service
 JS> and it's SYSOP continuing to want to share his DSL line
 JS> with many other people.

 Yup. Toltbbs was a pay system. For full access. It was well
 worth it.

 JS> I never could figure out a way to get a file in from a
 JS> system to which I was telnetted.  I've been told the
 JS> problem is 8bit/7bit incompatibility. I have to take that
 JS> on faith as I don't know enough about it to say myself.

 I also used Kermit to go on the net through the Toledo Lucas
 Country Public Library. They had a dialup system based on Dos
 Lynx. For the rest, I just used standard comm programs. I do
 recall, for FTP, they system first downloaded it to the local
 BBs, then you downloaded it from there using standard z-modem.

 JS> For a long time on that system I had offline email through
 JS> Juno until they moved all free users to web-based email and
 JS> the old '486 just wasn't up to their requirements for the
 JS> web client.

 I liked dial up Juno also.

 JS> Good luck on your project.

 Right now it's being used at work, for access to some of the
 machines. Faster computers don't link too well.

 JS> Last night I couldn't go to sleep so I fired up the old
 JS> 8080 2X720k floppy laptop hooked to the external 9600 baud
 JS> modem and read and replied a couple  of emails and then
 JS> played the Legend of the Red Dragon in another city for
 JS> awhile.

 JS> Now that's "retro" ;')

 Indeed it is.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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