On 04/10/98 Jean Halverson was overheard discussing California and
Hispan with ROBERT CRAFT
JH> RC> That depends upon what you consider the purpose of
JH> RC> immigrantion and naturalization policy.
JH> The history of the laws suggests that the reasons are to maintain a
JH> distinctly white, european country. Sounds racist to me.
The purpose of immigration laws, per the Supreme Court of the United
States, is to protect national security, and to protect American jobs
for Americans and legal permanent residents.
JH> JH> I'm not saying that people should disregard our laws, but
JH> JH> rather that our laws (as well as the Aryan ideology behind
JH> JH> them) are morally wrong.
JH> RC> What is morally wrong with formulating an immigration
JH> RC> policy which reflects the population demographics or our
JH> RC> national origin?
JH> Your national origin and maybe my national origin, but for what reason?
Immigration policy should be formulated due to economic factors,
demographic factors that impact on a society's ability to assimilate new
members, and other factors that serve the collective good of the nation.
NOT based upon "diversity" or other fuzzy feel good reasons.
JH> JH> People often try to justify injustice by comparing
JH> JH> themselves to others who are more unjust.
JH> RC> Canada? Sweden? Germany? France?
JH> JH> But there is a higher standard that we have to compare our
JH> JH> actions to. The real question is not whether our laws are
JH> JH> more lenient than x country's laws, but instead how do our
JH> JH> laws compare to the higher standard? 
JH> RC> What higher standard? 
 
JH> God's standard.
Just for the record, do you happen to know what God's philosophy on
immigration might be?
JH> RC> As John Sampson pointed out, in order
JH> RC> to illegally cross our borders, they first have to cross
JH> RC> either Canada or Mexico - both countries in which they can
JH> RC> take refuge. Why don't they?
JH> I personally don't see much in the way of working opportunities in 
exico,
JH> but I am not infallible.
There is a distinct difference between POLITICAL asylum and ECONOMIC
asylum. We have no laws that allow a person to legitimately file for
asylum based upon economic factors. We DO have laws relating to
Political Asylum.
Let me illustrate. There is a legal requirement that one who is facing
an attack has a LEGAL obligation to retreat as far and as quickly as he
or she can to avoid the attack. They do not have carte blanche to meet
violence with violence until such time as they cannot retreat any
further. This is the "retreat to the wall" principle. There is NO
requirement to retreat in one's own home or place of business.
Once they retreat and the attack ceases, they cannot return and "defend"
themselves by attacking the original attacker.
A similarity exists when one is fleeing political strife. Once they are
safe, then the danger that existed no longer poses a threat. If that
means a person fleeing Guatemala crosses into Mexico and there is no
political strife there that meets the legal criteria of a "well founded
fear of persecution based upon one's race, religion, political
affiliation, etc." on one's person, then to continue further to another
country visciates their claim for asylum since they are no longer
fleeing for their physical safety.
They ARE fleeing economic poverty. Granted, it's unfortunate, however it
doesn't meet the legal test for POLITICAL asylum.
Furthermore, we've had cases involving a claim for asylum by Vietnamese
who had firmly resettled in France, became FRENCH citizens, and then
abused the asylum process here for the sole purpose of reuniting with
other extended family members here in the United States.
It's a fraudulent claim for asylum. It's an abuse of the system. BTW,
asylum grants are NOT counted against the numerical limitations set by
Congress for immigrant visas. Furthermore, they can obtain employment
authorization after their case goes beyond 180 days from the date they
file for asylum. This includes all appeals filed by them regardless of
how long these appeals may take.
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