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to: RICHARD WEBB
from: NANCY BACKUS
date: 2007-12-24 22:38:00
subject: Re: DOS box on modern Net

-=> Quoting Richard Webb to Michel Samson on 12-17-07  16:20 <=-

My apologies for the tardiness of my reply... I've been snowed under and
more than a week behind on messages.  I've answered this with the help of
my resident Wizard, who set everything up for me on my dos box, and is
the Richard Backus mentioned by Michel.  Hi, back, Michel!

 RW>> Been told no way to put this dos 6.22 box on such a network, but I'm
 RW>> sure there has to be.
 MS>> I guess some people like to exagerate.  At the moment i'm under pure
 MS>> DOS v7.10a (Windows 98), my packet-driver is loaded and the WatTCP
 MS>> variables are set to support 'RLFossil' (to be used in conjunction
 MS>> with a terminal emulator like '{Commo}' or 'MS-Kermit'), 'MS-Kermit'
 MS>> (using the internal TCP/IP resources), 'Lynx', 'WatTCP FTP',
 MS>> 'Arachne', and maybe a few more i may have forgot about.  Oh, now
 MS>> that i think of it there's 'TNPort' by Richard J. Backus, hi Nancy! 

 RW> I know I could do dial-up internet, not quite the question I was
 RW> looking for  information on however. I'll probably try picking some

Ok, so...  What is the question?  :)  If the question is, can I use my
dos box to do all the stuff on DSL that I was doing on dial-up, the
answer is still probably yes.  But the question to clarify that would
be, just what are you doing on dialup that you still want to do on DSL?

If that* isn't the question, then just what are you hoping the dos box
would be able to do.  Dos already does some things for you on the
internet, through dial-up.  DSL isn't all that much different.  In fact,
we use the same programs for both.  We are using DOS on DSL with a
router.  Is this what you want, or is it something else?

On the DOS box, on DSL or dial-up, I do web-browsing with Lynx
(text-based), Telnet to various bbses with TNPort and ConEx, get and
send my email with POPSMT, and read it and answer it with Pegasus.  We
also have FTP, but I don't use it.  My messages from the bbses I do with
my trusty Bluewave Offline Reader.  All this is on a strictly dos box. 
For the very few things that need to be done in a windows environment,
hence more risky, I go to the box set up with windows complete with
firewall and virus junk, hubby's windows box.  That is also on the same
DSL, same router... so part of the same network.  Oh, and the router
also contains a firewall, for extra protection.  Does this help any?

 RW> will run dsl on a firewall/router box, network in another linux box
 RW> and a win98  box. WOuld like to tie this old dos box into that network
 RW> as well.  Packet  drivers etc. no problem for dos, just other
 RW> interfacing possibly. Thanks, 

Sounds an awful lot like most of what we have set up here.  Just to add
to my list... in another room, we currently have my son's computer,
where he mostly plays World of Warcraft, also on the same DSL router. 
Seems his computer is running pretty much 24/7 with that... he does
check his email occasionally, too...   We don't have a linux box at
the moment, but there's nothing that would stop us from having one as
part of the same network.

My DOS box is wired into the router through a network card in the
computer, and the router is wired to the DSL modem.  (We don't do
wireless here.)  Each of the other computers is also wired thru a
network card to the same router.  On the dos box, you'll need a packet
driver for the network card, just like you do for the phone modem for
dialup, but it will be a different packet driver.

Hope this helps.     :)

ttyl          neb

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