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to: ROY J. TELLASON
from: SCOTT JONES
date: 2003-11-21 23:43:00
subject: Re: what do I have here?

-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=-

 RJT> I know it'd probably be a good thing to be moving up to some newer
 RJT> stuff,  but from what I hear the newer stuff isn't always that much
 RJT> better,  or that much more reliable,  as it turns out.  I keep hearing
 RJT> about problems with ATX power supplies seemingly blowing up so much
 RJT> easier (and sooner!) than the older AT supplies,  and there's that cap

As always, YMMV, but the only times I've seen any problems with ATX
power supplies were in hostile environments that probably have killed
an AT supply just as easily.  Meanwhile, this machine is on its third
AT power supply in two years.
 
 RJT> problem you mention,  I remember reading about it here and elsewhere,
 RJT> but don't recall particular time frames with regard to that.  I'm going
 RJT> to have to research it a bit and see what I can find out,  as the
 RJT> effects of that one are pretty far-reaching as I understand it.  And it
 RJT> seems to me at this point that if I can get a rough idea of what time
 RJT> frame that problem happened in I'd be better off staying away from it
 RJT> altogether...

IEEE had an article on the problem back in February.  I found it
archived on their web site a couple of weeks ago when I had to fix the
year-old GigaByte mb in one of my wife's machines that had two bad caps.
That was cheap to fix.  A couple of bucks for one cap and another
stripped off a board I had sitting around. 

OTOH, my MIL's husband gave me a bunch of parts to help troubleshoot the
wife's board, basically a whole computer, including a year-old Soyo mb.
The Soyo has *11* bad caps. It'll be a whole lot easier and cheaper to
buy a new board than to replace those, unless anyone knows where I can
get 2200uF 10V high-temp caps for cheap.



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