RB>> he see that a Courier is a BETTER investment than a Yum-Char.



 PE> A modem is not an investment.  It is a luxury.  It gets financed

 PE> differently.



If something is not EXACTLY what I want and is not of the best

quality, then I go without, I Do not buy it. Therefore Everything

that I buy is treated as a luxury.



So, OK. Maybe I should learn how to budget & manage my money, like

you do.



RB>>  came near the best. I don't drink or smoke and I can't chase wild

RB>>  women, so I use the money that I save from that to buy my little

RB>>  luxuries. Paul can have his cigars and wine and netcomm. 



 PE> I think you have me confused with an alien from out of space.  I

 PE> don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't have a car, I don't do drugs,

 PE> I don't go to parties, I don't have any friends, I don't chase

 PE> wild women, unless you count the odd abusive message I might send

 PE> to Denise about here stupid initials.  I eat lollies, and write

 PE> public domain code.



 Ah , There is your downfall. you had me convinced that your way was

 the better way, that your head really is screwed on properly, that

 your feet were emplanted firmly on the ground, that I see things

 very much the same as you....And then ...The lollies...and the

 public domain...I don't do either.



You are not a Cult leader are you?

You are very convincing.



 PE> People like Brenton, who are Real Men, will

 PE> tell you that I am wasting my life, everyone should be like him.

 PE> The fact that he feels the need to convince me of my own plight

 PE> of despair gives me great satisfaction that I'm on the right track.



And here I was trying to do similar. I Bow (or is that Bowel) to you



RB>> I can't really understand why I had trouble logging into his

RB>> netcomm. I dial them most every day, with out the trouble that I

RB>> had with his, those few times... This EC thing, must have been user error

RB>> somewhere.



 PE> Poor old Russ.  There is no AT command to say "fuck up low level

 PE> negotation".  On EITHER modem.  The reason you never saw it before

 PE> was because you have never run the modems with the particular line

 PE> characteristics you get with me.  Maybe every 5 seconds there is a

 PE> slight click in my line, because the bitch upstairs has a cuckoo

 PE> clock that emits EMR.  I don't know.  But you find out bugs in modems

 PE> by finding a single example.  You don't find them by saying "well

 PE> most people don't have the problem, so you don't exist".



Of course, you are right.



RB>> He really made me so mad, that he could use a Courier and then pass it up

RB>> for the netcomm. (Money, not being the issue, here)

RB>> Can't see the grass, for the green.



 PE> The ISP's words made a lot of sense to me, "It's not a $200 better

 PE> modem - it's not even a better modem".  That was a hell of a logical

 PE> thing to say, and it summarized his testing perfectly.  I had NO

 PE> evidence to suggest that he was wrong.  I KNEW I had a lot of

 PE> problems with the USR, I didn't know what the problems were with the

 PE> Netcomm in my environment.  Turns out he was wrong when he said 

 PE> "it's not even a better modem".  I didn't know that at the time.

 PE> The Courier is my preferred modem, assuming no price difference.  

 PE> BFN.  Paul.



I am humbled, what more can I say.



Russell



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