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to: Pascal Schmidt
from: Roy J. Tellason
date: 2003-11-24 04:06:18
subject: having fun yet?

Pascal Schmidt wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 PS> Hi Roy! :-)

 RJT> Sure.  Stuff like VT82C586A, VT82C585VP on the two bigger ones,  and 
 RJT> 82C587VP on both of the smaller ones,  in what I'm guessing is the 
 RJT> cache area.

 PS> Those are data buffers.

That's an awful lot of pins for just buffers,  there must be more going on
in them than that.

 PS> The cache will be some SRAM chips not made by VIA. The chipset
 PS> supports up to 2 MB of cache.

There are two other chips similarly sized to the last two I mentioned,  up there.

 RJT> These numbers on the chips,  are they now a good way to track 
 RJT> down info?

 PS> Well, just doing a Google search for "VT82C585VP" 

One thing I hadn't tried yet.

 PS> turns up a description of the chipset (VIA Apollo VP-1) at:

 PS>     http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/19960710/

 PS> The feature list is quite long. ;)

I'll have to have a look.  The problem with me getting online is that I've
already snagged a fairly good-sized pile of stuff,  and need to do
something with it (mostly plugging the HTML and such into the tree I have
here already) and that's where it takes up some time.  I often needed to
edit this stuff a bit,  too,  get rid of some of the junk -- I had some
that I was working on today where the damn thing wanted to send me a
cookie!  That,  and lots of navigational bars and other things that don't
make any sense for a cached copy of a page...

I find that in doing this I can often cut the size down considerably. 
Especially if they used some tools to make the stuff.  Some I did the other
day where they apparently used msword (!) to do the pages were reduced in
the range of 90-105K down to 15-17K!  No wonder this stuff is so bloated
and takes so long to load!

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