Paul, at 02:44 on Mar 30 1996, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

BG> I've already posted that part of the manual which states this,

PE> It doesn't.  You have only ever been able to post irrelevant stuff.

BG> The following command example substitutes several user-defined defaults 
BG> for factory settings.  The modem also stores the port rate, word length 
BG> and parity it detects from the AT command prefix.

BG>          AT X1 &B0 &M5 &H0 M3 &W 

PE> The Netcomm also does this, at least with the baud rate.

That's not the point though, Paul.

BG> Word length*               8
BG> Parity* 0                  None
BG> DTE rate* (Kbps)           19.2    _

BG> *  Detected by the modem from the AT prefix of the &W command that 
BG>    writes your defaults to NVRAM.  Set your software to the desired word 
BG>    length, parity, and serial port rate defaults before sending the modem 
BG>    the AT . . . &W string.

PE> The Netcomm also does this, at least with the baud rate.

I know that, but you specifically stated that the manual says nothing about
having to write the baud rate to NVRAM, yet it's clearly mentioned on
several occasions throughout the manual.

BG> If that's not clear enough for you, I give up.

PE> You should have ditched your zealotry a LONG time ago, Bill.  Can't
PE> you even see the total lack of logic in all that you are saying?

I'm not saying that, the manual is.  And I was simply correcting you.

PE> You're quoting above the normal operating procedure of ALL modern modems, 
PE> INCLUDING ones (ie all except USR) that CORRECTLY autobaud detect.

Careful Paul, there happen to be some HS modems which DON'T work that way
at all.  The Interlink is one that comes to mind immediately.  Stupid
bastards made locked serial port rates an OPTIONAL EXTRA on some of their
models!  I forget which ones now, but Rod likely knows, as his opinion of
Interlink closely matches mine, from memory.

PE> You quote AT&B2 when I am using AT&B1.  You then fail to
PE> address the REAL issue, which is WHY the USR fails to autobaud on
PE> ATZ when there are NO comms programs and NO terminals which change
PE> baud rate after issuing ATZ, in expectation of the modem going back
PE> to what it used to be.  It's incredibly simple logic, Bill, I really
PE> have no idea how you can live for xx years and not even have simple
PE> logic like that in your brain.  Christ, people complain about women
PE> being logical.  What an insult to women! 

Dunno, there are those who might rather unkindly suggest that you are the
world's greatest argument in favour of retrospective abortion.  

But not me, I'm far too polite to say such an awful thing.  :)

Regards, Bill

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