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date: 2008-06-24 05:26:00
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Subject: Re: New info: first Beatles newspaper articles in USA/Canada
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On Jun 24, 3:40 pm, saki  wrote:
> While researching the question Pete had about Ed Sullivan in England, I
> decided to revisit another assumption. Some time ago I'd searched
> through the New York Times for the first mention of the Fabs, which I
> found in the newspaper for 4 Nov 1963, an apparently truncated AP or UPI
> story about fans rioting over an English pop group called the Beatles.
>
> Bruce Spizer cites this as the first as well in his book "The Beatles
> Are Coming!".
>
> But it turns out that the earliest cite in U.S. newspapers (so far
> known) occurred three weeks before this on 14 Oct 1963, all in:
>
> El Paso Herald Post, El Paso TX
> Eureka Humboldt Standard, Eureka CA
> Long Beach Press Telegram, Long Beach CA
> Tucson Daily Citizen, Tucson AZ
> Oakland Tribune, Oakland CA
> Ogden Standard-Examiner, Ogden UT
>
> and probably a few other regional papers that haven't yet been digitized.
>
> All carry the same two-paragraph UPI story (truncated to one paragraph
> in two cases). Here's an example from the Tucson Daily Citizen:
>
> http://www.sakionline.net/uploads/tucsondailycitizen14oct1963.jpg
>
> But Canada gets the award for being most prescient of all. The earliest
> known North American coverage was the Winnipeg Free Press, Winnipeg,
> Manitoba, on 28 Sept 1963, via the Times of London:
>
> http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/fab/winnipegfp28sept1963.jpg
>
> This is a chatty article by Derek Jewell who mentions other Merseyside
> groups of the day and provides some analysis of the Beatles' fame. It
> also sounds to me (from his prose) as if he'd just seen the documentary
> "The Mersey Sound".

Thanks for the interesting post.

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