Rod, at 15:28 on Mar 27 1996, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

RS> Fraid not. The data you have available for M34F/M34F calls between
RS> you and Paul isnt anything like enough to substantiate that claim.

Sure, more than 2 miserable calls would have been far preferable, but I
wasn't in a position to hang on to the NetComm for more than half an hour
(not that I particularly wanted to anyway).

BG> While Paul had the Courier, I was seeing 28800s (with occasional 26400s,
BG> but don't forget that this was with the old Sportster ROM which
BG> couldn't even connect at all with the M34F most of the time),

RS> These are irrelevant, we at talking about how USR/USR performs
RS> compared with how M34F/M34F performs on calls from you to Paul.

That's fair enough too, which is why I've basically ignored any data
collected before using the current V.34+ EPROM.  I merely mentioned it in
passing.

RS> And I notice that just before the M34F at your end, you got
RS> all but one 28800 with the new Sportster rom and his M34F.

Yep, and I don't recall less than a 28800/28800 in the past week either.

BG> whilst M34F-M34F was only 26400 at best from here.

RS> I have gone back to your message after that and it doesnt
RS> say that. Most of what you said was about the %L value
RS> reports which we now know are completely meaningless.

It's scrolled off the end of my limited message base here, but I did import
the connect strings for those M34F-M34F calls, both of which were 26400.

RS> Hopefully Paul will do a log extract on the speeds. You havent actually
RS> said how many times you actually called Paul M34F/M34F either.

Only twice (yeah, I know).  :)

RS> So you havent got a SHRED of evidence that the USR/USR is better there.

BG> On my (poor) lines, USR-USR is clearly better.

RS> I'm not convinced that you actually have the evidence to substantiate that
RS> claim unless you did make lots of M34F/M34F calls to Paul the day you had
RS> it. You certainly didnt even say that speed detail previously, so I should
RS> really have said that you hadnt presented a shred of evidence to 
RS> substantiate the claim that M34F/M34F does worse on calls from you to Paul 
RS> than USR/USR.

I was certain that I imported the full connect stats from LW/2 (didn't use
the mailer, as I wanted to do some on-line probes while I was at it), and
as I said, both of them were 26400 connects, whilst all bar one connect
with the USR's new EPROM have been at 28800.

RS> I think its more likely you made to few M34F/M34F calls to say much.

Dunno, you could also say that 100% of my M34F-M34F calls were 26400 while
99.9% of my USR-M34F calls are 28800.  But I won't, 'cause I also agree
that's far too small a sample to say anything really useful.

Regards, Bill

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