Salutatio Fredric!
03-Apr-98, Fredric Rice wrote to Richard Meic
          Subject: Needs for gods
 FR>> Observing Christians certainly does lend itself toward
 FR>> discovering the lows of evil and stink that humanity is capable
 FR>> of achieving. Islam and Judism are close second runners to the
 FR>> evil of the Christian cult.
 rm>> I cannot speak for ALL atheists, but I can say that I have grown
 rm>> out of the need for a deity concept.
 FR> As primates I think that most humans still need an Alpha Male.
 FR> How so much better when they construct an invisible Alpha which
 FR> can't be reached and thus can't be challanged and dethroned.
Likely done out of necessity.  How long do you think it could have 
lasted without the impossibility of disproof? 
 FR> With this unreachable, invisible Alpha Male mounted at the top,
Sounds rather racy. ;)
 FR> the greedy and the control freaks and manipulate the ignorant, the
 FR> weak, and the gullible.
         
Or perhaps to also keep many of the immoral in line with what society 
deems is fit behavior for a citizen.  What reason would they have had
to be moral at all, after all it usually got one poverty, mistreatment, 
death, etc with no reward in sight.  Religion (or theism, if you like) 
provided that reward,... and still does for many.
Imagine how fast early civilization would have crumbled if everyone 
were viewed equal?  I am thinking of the Egyptian gods and rulers (who
were thought of as gods themselves embodied in human form).
 FR> Atheists, I think, upset theists because atheists don't _need_
 FR> such primitive postureing and weak-willed submission to the ape
 FR> with the biggest balls.
                                                           
*Some* atheists upset *some* theists.  You may not have meant to brush them
all with THAT generalization, but I still needed to mention that.
 MB>>>> Simply because you disagree with someone -they automatically
 MB>>>> are labeled religious?
 FR>> Well?  You opened your yap, shall I close it for you?
 rm>> If you feel it is imperative to take such a silly comment
 rm>> seriously, sure.
 FR> I apologize profusely.  Lacking any indication that it was done in
 FR> jest I took immediate exception.  Please accept my apology.
                                                                
Sokay,... I should make a better effort to make such more obvious.
 Dicere...
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Richard Meic
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