Hello Carol.

25 Oct 02 19:41, you wrote to Russell Tiedt:

 CS> If the site has a POTS line as well, list it as normal.  If
 CS> they do not, use -Unpublished- for the phone field, mark
 CS> them PVT, and enter 300 for the baud rate.  Among the flags,
 CS> enter those which are applicable, omitting those that do not
 CS> apply.

This still does not address the problem of marking non-private IP based
nodes as PVT. That problem restricts connectivity for IP nodes, causes
confusion over which nodes are full-time IP nodes and which are /truly/
private IP nodes, and causes IP based nodes to be treated differently than
POTS nodes, in effect, creating first-class and second class listings.

Your comments that, "Its harmless for an ION and protects stupid POTS
people from making mistakes due to them not being setup right" Is
incorrect; it *is* harmful to ION's, and your comments also insult the
intelligence of POTS nodes at the same time, by assuming that they are so
technically inept as to not know how to configure their systems properly.
It's far better to /assist/ those who are having trouble to correctly
configure their systems, than to make global accomodations for them at the
expense of all others, just because you think a few individuals are
"stupid".

I'm quite suprised, being a former RC, that you lack any real insight to
this issue. This is a problem that /must/ be dealt with if Fidonet is to
move forward; ignoring it just makes things worse. The PVT kludge is
/unacceptable/, and a much better solution needs to be found.


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