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to: TERRY MAY
from: STEPHEN FRAZIER
date: 1996-12-04 06:15:00
subject: NL Cy Young

-=> Quoting Terry May to Stephen Frazier <=-
 TM> Re: _NL Cy Young_, Stephen Frazier wrote to Ed Grinnell on 20 Nov 96:
 SF> Not only that, but five years from now Dye will be an annual all-
 SF> star, and Todd will be WHO?
 TM> Wanna bet?  We may or may not be saying "Todd WHO?," but where on
 TM> earth do you get the idea that Dye will be an annual all-star?  He
 TM> does nothing particularly well.  He has absolutely no patience at the
 TM> plate, does not have a clue about the strike zone, has a poor OBP and
 TM> is mediocre at both hitting for average and hitting for power.  He's a
 TM> pretty good outfielder, but certainly not good enough to make him an
 TM> all-star with his mediocre offensive skills.  Dye is a good 4th OF,
 TM> and I'll be surprised if he's ever better than that.
I don't know what you mean, POOR OFFENSE. He hit nearly as well as the great 
TH with about half the playing time, and in a much more pressure packed 
situation (coming out of nowhere to replace David Justice). Sure I could be 
wrong about his future, but not nearly as wrong as you are about his present.
 SF> Witness the reverse fortunes of last year's duel, Jones and Nomo. Jonesy
 SF> just puts up another yar like last year, while Nomo was victimized by 
he
 SF> jinx.
 TM> Nomo actually had a pretty good year, though not as good as his rookie
 TM> year.  Still, it wouldn't matter if Jones was MVP and Nomo was waived
 TM> out of MLB.  That has absolutely no relevence to LAST YEAR'S ROY
True. You got me there.
 TM> voting.  Nomo was arguably the second-best overall pitcher in the NL
 TM> last year, whereas Jones had a great rookie year, but he was hardly
 TM> one of the best overall players.
Nomo is my favorite pitcher, but SECOND BEST? Do names like Glavin, Maddox, 
even Neagle mean anything at all to you?  Oh. You did say 'arguably', right?
Stephen
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