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echo: askacop
to: RICH WILLBANKS
from: CHARLES HUNTER
date: 1998-03-14 09:35:00
subject: Zero Tolerance

RW>Which is selective enforcement, which is saying that
  >you are willing to let people commit crimes in areas
  >but not in others.
But it's not selective for the sake of being selective.  Usually
in law enforcement zt is invoked for an area that has serious problems 
and needs cleaning up.
RW>Sure they do.  If you catch two people doing the same
  >thing in two different places you treat them the both
  >the same.  Not let a 16 y.o. kid driving the BMW in the
  >neighborhood where the houses cost a minimum of
  >$500,000 off with a "you've been a bad boy" speech when
  >you find a 'roach' in his car but if it is a 16 y.o.
  >kid walking down an ally in a public housing area with
  >a roach in his sock you toss him in the back of the
  >car.
You posit and interesting example, Rich; but that is not the intent
of zt operations.
RW>flashlight.  Why if this is a DUI road block?  Seems to
  >me like it is nothing more than a police check point
  >where they are searching me and my car for any
  >violations of the law.
Any officer stopping your vehicle is going to be concerned about his
safety.  Obviously, if you had a 12 guage shotgun on the seat next to
you it would be important that he be aware of that.  Moreover, the
officer has an obligation to be aware of any illegal items that are
in plain view or he wouldn't be earning that paycheck you give him.
RW>And I feel for them and for their loss but:
RW>They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
  >little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
  >safety.        Benjamin Franklin
RW>If you want to see a safe and orderly place go to
  >Singapore.  Of course don't expect to be able to have a
  >lot of freedom.
From a constitutional perspective I know what you mean; and I agree
with regard to DUI roadblocks.
CHARLES HUNTER
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