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to: John Beamish
from: Robert Comer
date: 2004-03-21 12:59:30
subject: Re: XPsp2

From: "Robert Comer" 

> Finally, and this is the part that I really don't like, there are whole
sets
> of scenarios where the code is known to be Working as Designed but not
> Working as Intended and the software supplier doesn't publicly acknowledge
> these items won't be fixed.  How can one beta test software when there are
> conditions that the supplier has no intention of fixing when you don't
know
> what those conditions are.

Very true. :(

- Bob Comer 


"John Beamish"  wrote in message
news:405dd3f3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> True ... but (and I know there is no way around this):  I wish the betas
> were really code that is beta (i.e., damned close to gold) because that's
> what we used to get.  OTOH, code these days (particularly OS code) has so
> many potential paths and hardware/software combinations that "damned close
> to gold"  still has so many untested combinations that full beta testing
> isn't going to cover all of them.
>
> Finally, and this is the part that I really don't like, there are whole
sets
> of scenarios where the code is known to be Working as Designed but not
> Working as Intended and the software supplier doesn't publicly acknowledge
> these items won't be fixed.  How can one beta test software when there are
> conditions that the supplier has no intention of fixing when you don't
know
> what those conditions are.
>
>
> "Geo."  wrote in message
news:405daae2$2{at}w3.nls.net...
> > I know, it's just that I can't understand why software companies don't
do
> > full public betas. Besides finding a bunch of bugs they would not other
> wise
> > find until it went GA, they can also serve as free advertising (try
before
> > you buy).
> >
> > Geo.
> >
> > "John Beamish"  wrote in message
> > news:405d1e6c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > It was a joke, son, a joke I say  .
> > >
> > > (at least the jobs weren't being outsourced to India.)
> > >
> > > "Geo."  wrote in message
news:405cc1a6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > why not? It always amazes me how software vendors are
reluctant to
do
> > > public
> > > > betas. There are tons of talented people out there willing to do
> testing
> > > for
> > > > free simply because they like playing with the latest
and greatest.
> all
> > > you
> > > > need is a good system for getting feedback from them.
> > > >
> > > > Geo.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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