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to: ROBERT CRAFT
from: JEAN HALVERSON
date: 1998-04-09 15:11:00
subject: California and Hispan

 -=> Quoting ROBERT CRAFT to JEAN HALVERSON <=-
 -=> On 03-05-98  19:53, Jean Halverson did testify and affirm <=-
 -=> to Robert Craft concerning California and Hispan <=-
 
 JH> snip-- 
 
 MA> In both cases, those seeking hope and liberty, followed the
 MA> nothern star in hopes of realizing their dreams. In both
 MA> cases, those who wrap themselves in unjust and inhumane
 MA> law, armed and deadly, stand in their way. 
 
 RC> Again, more hyperbole. The liberality and openness of US
 RC> immigration policies are exceeded by very few countries. 
 
 JH> But just because our laws are more lenient than others does
 JH> that mean our laws in this respect are correct? 
 RC> That depends upon what you consider the purpose of
 RC> immigrantion and naturalization policy. 
 
 The history of the laws suggests that the reasons are to maintain a 
 distinctly white, european country. Sounds racist to me.
 JH> I'm not saying that people should disregard our laws, but
 JH> rather that our laws (as well as the Aryan ideology behind
 JH> them) are morally wrong. 
 RC> What is morally wrong with formulating an immigration
 RC> policy which reflects the population demographics or our
 RC> national origin?
 
 Your national origin and maybe my national origin, but for what reason?
 JH> People often try to justify injustice by comparing
 JH> themselves to others who are more unjust.
 RC> Canada? Sweden? Germany? France?
 
 
 JH> But there is a higher standard that we have to compare our
 JH> actions to. The real question is not whether our laws are
 JH> more lenient than x country's laws, but instead how do our
 JH> laws compare to the higher standard? 
 RC> What higher standard? 
 
 God's standard.
 RC> As John Sampson pointed out, in order
 RC> to illegally cross our borders, they first have to cross
 RC> either Canada or Mexico - both countries in which they can
 RC> take refuge. Why don't they?
 I personally don't see much in the way of working opportunities in Mexico,
 but I am not infallible.
 RC> AFAIC, the only principles to be considered in immigration
 RC> and naturalization policy should be 1) to offer refuge for
 RC> victims of repression and 2) to reflect the demographics of
 RC> American society.
 Why do we have to consider immigrants based on our demographics?
 Sounds rather Swedish to me.
 RC> BTW, the ONLY totalitarian regime from which refugees can
 RC> reach us without passing thru some other country in which
 RC> they could take refuge is Cuba. Ignoring for the moment the
 RC> occasional North Korean who jumps ship in an American
 RC> harbor, the majority of hardship refugee immigrants should
 RC> be Cuban.
 You don't consider China a totalitarian regime? 
 
 
 Jean Halverson
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