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Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!nntp.infostrada.it!area.cu.mi.it!diesel.cu.mi.it!not-for-mail From: pete Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles.moderated,rec.music.beatles Subject: Re: Is this true? Followup-To: rec.music.beatles.moderated Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:15:45 -0500 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 47 Approved: rmbm-request{at}seltaeb.ghg.net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.148.160.113 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: tdi.cu.mi.it 1214270644 11342 75.148.160.113 (24 Jun 2008 01:24:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse{at}diesel.cu.mi.it NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:24:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/1.0 Gecko/2008061004 Firefox/3.0,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) diesel.tinews.pl/1.1.8 Complaints-To: groups-abuse{at}google.com Injection-Info: c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.255.29.147; posting-account=5tH2JgoAAACY9qBcY0Nmzdl4JqNB3eMU Delivered-To: rmbmod{at}evolution.seltaeb.net Bytes: 3502 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com rec.music.beatles.moderated:17471 rec.music.beatles:1166848 On Jun 23, 8:27 pm, saki wrote: > pete wrote: > > On Jun 23, 6:46 pm, saki wrote: > > >>Prescience indeed, but it certainly helped that Sullivan, just a week > >>before Brian Epstein's visit, was passing through the airport in London > >>at the same time the Beatles were making their triumphant return from Sweden, > >>greeted by happy hordes of fans. > > > I don't think this story of Sullivan's has ever been > > corroborated by an independent source. > > The most current independent (i.e. non-Sullivan) source is a > London-based theatrical agent, Peter Prichard, who worked with Jack > Babb, Sullivan's European-based talent coordinator. Prichard tried to > interest Babb in the group during the summer of 1963 but the Beatles' > fame was still slowly building. Babb wasn't interested at that time. > > Prichard also knew Brian Epstein and contacted him in early November > 1963 to urge a meeting between Brian and Ed Sullivan, which Prichard > helped set up. Sullivan mentioned to Prichard the airport reception he'd > witnessed in London and this, according to Prichard, was one reason > Sullivan was interested in booking the Beatles. > > Bruce Spizer's "The Beatles Are Coming!" (2003), pp. 54-55, has some > good details about the situation. Prichard was one of the sources > consulted by Spizer. > Thanks, I'm aware of this. I still think the story is apocryphal. Sullivan published several columns a week in the NY Daily News. Check out autumn of 1963 and ask yourself why there's a dearth of Fab mentions and certainly no airport story. Ask yourself, too, what Sullivan and his wife were doing in England on a Thursday, between broadcasts. Sorry, I think this story is too pat but has been repeated so many times that it's accepted as truth. -- All follow-ups are directed to the newsgroup rec.music.beatles.moderated. If your follow-up more properly belongs in the unmoderated newsgroup, please change your headers appropriately. -- the moderators -- --- þ Derby City GateWorks: UUCP FidoNet* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - telnet://derbycitybbs.com (1:2320/100) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 14/250 34/999 106/1 120/228 123/500 140/1 226/0 249/303 SEEN-BY: 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1418 266/1413 280/1027 SEEN-BY: 320/119 396/45 633/260 267 285 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 SEEN-BY: 2320/100 2905/0 @PATH: 2320/100 261/38 633/260 267 |
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