Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 11:23:49 -0800



	Oh, gosh, I used to get into arguments like this all the time with Chip
Livingston in Virginia.  Sigh.  Readers are either people who read s.f. and
don't make it their social life or they are people who read s.f. but not
enough.  Fans are people who make being fans their social life or they read
more than readers.  The business that confused me and amused Sharyn were
the people who didn't seem to be readers but who made their social lives
from interactions with people at conventions.  PSFAs has officers who are
two very different types of fans even though both are lawyers.  One likes
writers; the other thinks writers have no business thinking they're the
read s.f. fandom exists.  I think some fans would be happy if the only s.f.
writer was Robert Heinlein and the rest of us pretenders just got over it
and admitted that what we really wanted to be or really should be is fans,
only he was a SMOF and I'm not.
	Sharyn's error re fandom was assuming that s.f. fans weren't successful
lawyers, doctors, and so forth.  She also said of Ann Crispin that she
couldn't have handled her Trek fans better if she'd been able to prescribe
thorazine.  Ann made the point that all studies of Star Trek fans seems to
show that they do have normally successful lives
	
	
-- 
Rebecca Ore

James Morrow  wrote in article
...
> On 28 Feb 1997 21:00:37 -0500, gfarber@panix.com (Gary Farber) wrote:
> 
> >In  Rebecca Ore 
> > wrote:
> >
> >: As Gary Farber said, Sharyn thought readers were a different category
> >: than fan.  As far as her saying it, we both said it, in the same car, 
> >: with FOSFAX on the floor with footprints on it.  I now see that fans
who
> >: read are great, fans who become writers and editors are only okay. 
Fans
> >: who run conventions I'm invited to are okay, too.  I don't know what
the
> >: purpose of fans that don't read is, frankly. 
> >
> 
>    Fan  this and that.  Fanatic?  To what degree are we defininting
> this word please?   What do you have to do and to what degree do you
> have to do it in order to be called a F A N   ?
> 
> 
> James Morrow
> 
> 

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