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to: Roy J. Tellason
from: Wayne Chirnside
date: 2003-12-04 03:51:00
subject: Re: KNOPPIX

-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 CA> I still think there should be an optional 650meg version of
 CA> KNOPPIX for people like myself who cannot do 'overburns' onto
 CA> CDs but with the memory requirements I guess KNOPPIX isn't for
 CA> 'legacy' users anyhow. :-\

 WC> No I'd say not what with 128 Meg RAM requirements for the GUI and
 WC> some apps.

 RJT> Requirements?  Which stuff is that?  This ain't _that_ different from
 RJT> what I've been running here on a 64MB box...

Star Office, Firebird, Thunderbird, Konqueror, Dillo as well as
a half dozen other browsers.
Darn thing loads everything.

 WC> I really should have used FIPS if only to make a copy of
 WC> the MBR. Will fdisk /MBR work on a Win 98 system and if so
 WC> will sys.com from a recovery disk restore a bootable Win 98
 WC> partition?

 RJT> FDISK /MBR will put a dos boot sector on the HD,  if that's what you
 RJT> want.  You won't see any access to anything else,  then.  There are
 RJT> apparently some choices of where you can install LILO (or GRUB,  if
 RJT> that's what you use), either in the MBR or in the partition that's
 RJT> being booted.

 

 WC> Well I can unzip either Peanut or Dragon Linux, forget which, that
 WC> has a limited Partition magic included, it only
 WC> resizes empty space.

 RJT> I got cdroms included with books here that supposedly include either
 RJT> that program or something pretty similar to serve the same purpose.

 RJT> I did a limited amount of experimenting with Peanut,  but then realized
 RJT> that when I hit a certain point in the install process it wanted to
 RJT> just stomp on what was already installed on one of my partitions,  so
 RJT> you might want to be careful with that.

No sweat, I've memorized all the setup configurations.

 CA> I don't recommend multiboot setups.

 RJT> I don't care for them either.  The only one I'd tried was dos and OS/2
 RJT> on this box,  and after some hardware changes the OS/2 partition wasn't
 RJT> accessible to me any more,  or at least it wouldn't boot.  That drive
 RJT> is now sitting nearby, waiting for me to install it in the linux
 RJT> primary box when I really need some more drive space.

 I'll likely pick up a hard drive in January and install it second
 physical.

 CA> If you can clear enough space on the machine and use BootitNG I
 CA> would suggest giving W98 enough room for what you have
 CA> installed there now plus a gig or two for temporary files etc.

 RJT> Plus a gig or two?  Yikes!  :-)

 I only intend to leave a Gig for files and such after complete install.

 CA> Because of the more efficient file format I don't think a separate
 CA> Linux swap partition is really necessary. Two partitions, one for
 CA> W98 and one for Linux, should be a workable arrangement and less
 CA> confusing later on.

 WC> I'm still installing 128M for swap so I'll have three partitions on
 WC> this drive.

 RJT> I personally prefer to have a swap partition as well,  since these
 RJT> setups don't tend to fail too gracefully when they run out of memory.
 RJT> Hitting swap instead slows things down initially,  and gives you an
 RJT> idea of what's going on before you get to the end of that,  too.

With 256 Meg of RAM I don't see swap getting too much of
a workout.

 WC> Would you be interested in a very funny MP3 audio file?
 WC> It's around a meg so I ask before attaching it e-mail.

 WC> HorseRace.mp3 describes the the course of the decline of a
 WC> marriage from wedded bliss to something less then that
 WC> in the form of a an announcer giving an account of
 WC> a race. VERY clever, funny and well done.

 RJT> I wouldn't mind seeing that.  Got my current email?

 Send me an e-mail at kevlar{at}verizon.net and I'll attach it to the reply.
 Really is worth a listen as it's hysterically funny and extremely well
 done.
 
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