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to: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
from: Roy J. Tellason
date: 2003-12-09 20:16:30
subject: Knoppix

WAYNE CHIRNSIDE wrote in a message to CHARLES ANGELICH:

WC> Saved a detailed web page on the use of Tar and Gzip. ect.

I did a bunch of looking at tar,  a while back.  I'd installed a tape
drive,  and wanted to play with it a bit.  I did get it working,  but after
managing to tar a few files on to the tape I stopped bothering with it, and
eventually disconnected and removed it...

In my researches,  I found that there was a _lot_ more about tar in the
info pages than there was in the man page.  Don't like info,  don't like
the user interface,  but there it was.  

WC> Need to snag MultiMail for Linux as well as the home user Linux 
WC> version of F-prot.

Virus program?  I've never seen the need to bother,  here.  About the only
use I ever heard of that made some sense was for a linux system that
handled a lot of dos and win files,  to check _those_.

WC> The syntax for telnet transfers is going to take some research on 
WC> my part. I've seen references to a BSD - Linux hack of ztelnet but 
WC> as yet no download link.

WC> SCP stands for Secure Copy and is another possibility I need 
WC> examine to see if it's suitable to this use.

SSH is probably a better bet.



WC> There's a pretty impressive assortment of multimedia, sound, video
WC> and munipulation apps native to Knoppix.

Have you looked at The Gimp yet?  A little strange to operate,  but *very*
powerful stuff there.  I can refer you to some online articles if you want.



WC> Verizon used to allow one to stay online for extended periods but 
WC> now seems to log you off at 5 hours tops even with activity :-(
WC> Time to change providers, it's my 150 Hrs/Mo and I should be 
WC> allowed to chose how I use them!

That's one of the reasons I changed.  Absolutely no mention was made of
this when I signed up,  and then they acknowledged it,  and still didn't
have any mention of it on their web page until I bugged them about it.  My
irritation stemmed from the fact that there were occasional large downloads
that I might want to do that wouldn't be possible with this setup.  If the
site in question didn't allow me to resume where I'd left off,  I was
screwed.

Not to mention the lousy connect rates...  I was emailing with my brother
on this subject and gave him the local access number for my new outfit
where he lives,  and he had the same experience,  going from not ever
connecting any higher than 33.6 to 49-something on the first shot.  He said
something about giving them a chance to fix it,  but they're not gonna fix
it...

Screw 'em.



WC> You know that's one of many things I'll have to look into.
WC> No bother now the man pages and HOW_TO's are on the local
WC> drive :-)

CA> Linux only installs manpages for installed binaries (each archive 
CA> of a binary includes it's own manpages).  If the binary is not 
CA> installed you will not find it's manpages either.

Unless you have a setup like mine...   :-)

WC> I think Knoppix installed *EVERYTHING* here. Hey I've not even 
WC> 1/10th explored all the GUI apps on KDE let alone the command line.

When you do get around to the command-line stuff,  mc is your friend.  :-)



WC> Right now I'm up to my eyeballs in stuff to do,

I know the feeling!

WC> I think I'll trust the 6.4 Gig Quantum drive to last two months 
WC> before I occupy the spare drive bay with a large drive.

WC> If she crashes and burns no big deal as Knoppix is a snap to
WC> install!

Yeah,  that lasts until you have a certain amount of time invested in
making it work the way you want to,  configuring stuff,  etc.



CA> I _think_ the general consensus has been to use 'dd' for creating 
CA> image files for backup purposes from a Linux install?

WC> I'll do a man dd and check that out :-)

It's a handy utility,  I used it to wipe the boot sector on that XP box
that's been a pain in the butt for me lately,  stuck tomsrtbt in there and
after logging in typed "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512
count=1".  If it hadn't been so late and me so tired I would've left
off that last bit and wiped the whole drive,  it'd have been easier in the
long run.



CA> Hard drive speed (or lack of) is the weak link in the 'chain'
CA> for many systems.

WC> Know it. February brings a 80 Gig drive and Siig Ultra 133 I/O 
WC> controller card.

You have a vendor picked out for that drive yet?  I'm still looking.

WC> For March I may change ISP's to 1/2 price local outfit or go DSL 
WC> where I'm at not sure which yet.

CA> If you're considering going DSL then there is no need for the 56k 
CA> modem. Any decent modem is OK as a 'backup' for emergency use once 
CA> you have DSL.

WC> Five year warrantee on the hardware external I've in mind and the 
WC> cost for the local ISP is only 9.95 unlimited dialup.

Just make sure that when they say "unlimited" they really mean it!

WC> BTW the dialer in Knoppix connects and negotiates way faster than
WC> Windows' dialer.

Big surprise,  eh?  :-)



CA> The Winamp lookalike included with KNOPPIX seems quite good here 
CA> for most music files.

XMMS?  It seems to work well for me,  too. 



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