BK>  
> This is also a right-to-work state, is California?  
 BK> (Some dipwads call it
> a "right-to-work-for-nothing state.")
 BK>  
 BK>  
 BK> Ahhhhh what's a "right to work" state??
     You don't need to be a union member.  No closed shops; they're against 
the law here...although I used to work in one, out of Local 469, the Plumbers 
and Pipefitters Union.  The line was, "we're not a closed shop but we get our 
hiring list from the union."
 
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