-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC>> I've come around to your way of thinking as regards to
 WC>> keeping Windows and Linux separate.

 CA>> I like them on separate machines. ;-)

 WC> Don't have two heavy duty machines at the moment. I just
 WC> won't configure to mount HDA on boot and Windows should be
 WC> out of risk save for the dual boot setup.

 CA> Until the hands touch the keyboard, yes. ;-)

 CA> I always seem to find that I 'need' some file(s) that are
 CA> sitting on the non-Linux partitions and don't want to reboot to
 CA> transfer them to floppies.

 I do this as well.

 CA> THEN the fun begins if you don't
 CA> un-mount the FAT partition.

 Yup, that describes my one and only major screwup,
 " cp  filename.html /dev/hda1"
 Very ungood.
 Better I should have used cp filename.HTML /mnt/target_ directory

 WC>> ITMT I can clear one of the the partitions where my
 WC>> configuration data is kept and look into installing an
 WC>> OLR, resave and proceed from there when I get the new
 WC>> drive.

 CA>> You need the OLR, InfoZip, and a telnet with zmodem
 CA>> up/downloading. I use ztelnet with my mini-installs.

I'll look for it in the packages.txt list or on the net.

 WC> Knoppix has telnet and I can already write online.

 CA> Standard Linux telnet does not include zmodem up/downloading.

 WC> There's a Linux InfoZip? I use Pkzip 2.50 in DOS here.

 CA> Yes, you use pkzip in DOS but you won't have access to that
 CA> when using KNOPPIX. ;-)

That much I knew, GZIP

 CA> There are many versions of InfoZip available for many OS all of
 CA> which are compatible with pkzip's archives.

 WC>> I sent the How_To on installing Knoppix to hard drive file
 WC>> attached to your other e-mail address as HTML

 CA>> OK, will take a looksee ...

 CA>> OK, the MP3 and HTML are there. Briefly reading the HTML
 CA>> "How-To" I noticed the caveat about multi-booting and the
 CA>> possibility that you won't be able to boot to Windows if
 CA>> you're not careful then the mention that it's too
 CA>> complicated to 'discuss' with each user. ;-)

FIPS -t will make a copy of the MBR before and after I modify it.

 WC> I didn't see LinLoader in there but something about GRUB,
 WC> something I'll have to look into. If Windows get
 WC> clobbered... oh well .

 CA> GRUB and LILO are both included on the KNOPPIX CD according to
 CA> the KNOPPIX webpage listing of what is on the CD.

 I'll stick with LILO once I transfer it to the drive.

 CA>> I've run across this so very many times that my impression
 CA>> is that even attempting dual-booting to Windows and Linux
 CA>> on one computer is for those who enjoy reinstalling their
 CA>> OS because they have no actual _use_ for the machine once
 CA>> the OS is installed. There are many who fall into that
 CA>> category, and unfortunately they advise the rest that it
 CA>> is 'easy'. I think not. :-\

 Well I'm working towards all Linix and your help was
 unbelievably welcome :-)
 98 will be a fallback OS until I get my Knoppix just
 the way I like.

 WC> Want to bet I lack the patience to wait and go the
 WC> multiboot route? I've done dual boot before and had only
 WC> one screwup but as I'd a zipped copy of the entire C drive
 WC> on another partition it wasn't a problem.

 CA> Image copies of the partitions would be safer but, yes, I've
 CA> done that here for my multiboot to DOS and W2K.

I've used xcopy32 with appropriate switches as well.

 CA>> I also noted this comment: "Please also know that, even
 CA>> though Knoppix is based on the Debian distribution, your
 CA>> enquiries in #debian may not be welcomed."

 CA> KNOPPIX gives a person the opportunity to _see_ what OS they
 CA> are trying to learn to use. Being a good looking Desktop is
 CA> some encouragement that it will at least look good if nothing
 CA> else. ;-)

 SMTP, POP3, Newsgroups and all that's left is telnet and some
 multimedia apps.

 CA>> Linux binaries are updated but their purpose does not
 CA>> change. If they used them they know them, if they haven't
 CA>> used them they don't 'know' Linux. Simple.

 CA>> The MP3 is well done and funny in a 'dark humor' sort of
 CA>> way. I like it. :-)

 WC> I'm into dark humor. One of my all time favorite movies is
 WC> "Dr. Strangelove."

 CA> Yes, mine too and I will miss Peter Sellers particularly dry
 CA> humor now that he is no longer with us.

 CA> http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/faf/psellers.htm

 WC> Another favorite is "Catch 22", the book not the movie.

 CA> Enjoyed the movie, never read the book. :-)

Book explains bits glossed over in the movie.
Bob Newhart was great and Orson  Wells played the general.
The scene with the briefing and lass stroking her leg was worth the
price of the movie :-)
I doubled over laughing when Wells said take him out and shoot him!

 CA> Giancarlo Giannini has made many dark comedies one of the ones
 CA> I like is "Seven Beauties" (1976), the other is
"Swept Away"
 CA> (1975). Marcello Mastroianni did "Dark Eyes" (1987) which is
 CA> quite good if you can last to the end of the movie (where it is
 CA> headed isn't easy to see).

 CA> PBS shows Giannini and Mastroianni movies but not as often as
 CA> they once did. Probably best to look in libraries for these
 CA> since the 'stars' are 'foreign'. :-)
 
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