Bob Short wrote in a message to Thom Lacosta:

 BS> I think you mean more to say that I have less tolerance for
 BS> negative rhetoric than I should.   That may be true to a point, but
 BS> more so for comments that have little to do with the core proposal
 BS> (or areas not included in it).  How long this takes has nothing to
 BS> do with the proposal.  

Hmmm, I give up....at some point in time, IF there is no action by the RCs
one could assume it's a dead issue.  

 BS> I'll happily debate any real issue you'd like to bring up, and
 BS> welcome your comments as either instruction or rebuttal fodder. 
 BS> Either way, such will deal with issues, not time-lines.

Time-lines are as real an issue as any other.

TL> Personally, I think it's very valuable for folks to argue the
TL> points and in
TL> some instances point to the nagatives of the issue.  Your wanting
TL> folks not
TL> make negative comments on how long it takes flies in the face of
TL> evaluating
TL> proposal on its merits.

 BS> Because there can be no advantage to such comments.  They are not
 BS> made to add meaningful discourse, but to bring unfavorable light to
 BS> something in which we no longer have control over.  What did you
 BS> expect to achieve by pointing out this delay?

Be careful that you don't attribute to me what you'd like to use as a
dialectic weapon to advance your own issues.  There can be advantages to
negative comment, and in an open discussion one would expect to see other
sides of the coin than the "party line". 

\TL>  BS> One might think you were among the detractors.  ;-)
 BS>  
TL> In many ways I am...and I have been and will continue to verbalize my 
TL> thougts.

 BS> Yes... I know you are, and I hope to do (in that order).  I've
 BS> gleaned from your writings that you are a closet radical... a
 BS> proponant of change that exceeds what we are attempting now, though
 BS> not as overt as some others.

So now you're expert at indentification and labelling?  Since I'm not sure
what a closet radical is, and you haven't defined it, I'll simply pass on
the label.  


TL> but please stop telling people they can't/shouldn't make
TL> negative comments.

 BS> How's about we strike a compromise?  Bring up all the points you
 BS> feel needed, but limit them to real issues, and I'll make an effort
 BS> to be less itenerant.  ;-)

From your post I assume YOU are the authority of real and unreal...which is
not only humorous, it's also dim-bulbed.

So, since you're effectively attempting to censor me, I'll let you win....I
won't post any more, and will disconnect from this echo after this message
is uploaded. 


cya,
thom
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http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/ 

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