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from: Herbert Rosenau
date: 2004-05-07 10:58:30
subject: Re: VPC and further

Adam McNutt wrote:
> Seems I've struck a chord with the dead issue.  I didn't mean to start a 
> flame war, but at the same time will note that has support ever really 
> been an issue with any OS/2 user since about 1998?  eCS is great for us, 
> really it is, and we have a company we can look to, but how many SOHO 
> users have ever gotten a ton of support from big blue quickly?  I'm a 
> big IBM fan, don't get me wrong.  My first place of support has ALWAYS 
> been the community, and to this day I always ask the community before 
> going to the source of the product.  Real experience is no substitute 
> for a script of database of known issues on the other end of a phone 
> line.  Google is my friend.  I don't discount a support line, but it's 
> never been a real problem solver either.
> 
> I run several OSes here (among several computers), so VPC and Windows 
> emulation is not a priority.  No matter what you do, you are gonna in 
> some way help out Redmond.  Even OS/2 still contains old M$ code.  I run 
> an XP box here.  It's my Wintendo, and my video editing station.  Having 
> kids, and a video camera, OS/2 just doesn't have the media abilities.  I 
> run BeOS as I have a love for that OS (and it's a damn good JukeBox).  I 
> have always kept OS/2 around, and probably always will.  Each has their 
> strong points, and I use the right tool for the right job.  I'm still 
> wanting to learn to program, and both BeOS and OS/2 have niches that 
> need filled.
> 
> My biggest reason for asking about VPC vs. SVISTA is that I've just 
> ordered 2 of the IBM eServer x330 servers and will be tasking them to do 
> various things.  I'm going all out and pushing to see what I can do 
> programming-wise and services-wise with OS/2.  One of the servers will 
> be a 100% OS/2 machine.  Just gave a ton of money to Mensys, BMT micro, 
> and Netlabs (gotta support folks).  So I'm hoping by putting a little 
> more into things this time than I had before will give me more tools at 
> my disposal.  Linux has done nothing lately but piss me off, and the way 
> I had things setup before kinda of limited me.  So I'm hoping a few of 
> the apps I have gotten will help me leverage this server as part of my 
> ISP force, not just something for me to play around with.  We have a 
> VERY hybrid environment in our datacenter of Xserves (OSX), Dell (Win), 
> HP (BeOS) and Compaq (Linux) systems.  I'm hoping I can see OS/2 running 
> something we'll need. 
> 
> I'll be putting on DB/2 and maybe postgres and really going to try to 
> learn to do some things with it.  So if anyone has suggestions as to 
> that, please shoot me some links.  One thing I have looked for and 
> haven't found is a user management console for ISP accounts, etc.  I'm 
> wanting to write some front end for Zeryx, Apache or LDGW, WebMail/2 and 
> Hethmon FTPd so I can make a management console of types where folks can 
> sign up and manage their accounts.  Dunno how I'm going to approach it 
> yet, or if it's even feasible, but I've seen other software out there 
> for Linux and Windows solutions, but no OS/2 front ends...maybe this is 
> a market we can tap.
> 
> Speaking of which - what do you all recommend - Apache (which I've used 
> for a while now) or LDGW (which I've used before, but seem to remember 
> weird things about).  I have this attraction to LDGW, being OS/2 and 
> all, but can't remember why I went to apache.  So if you guys have 
> comments about that, please let me know.
> 
Some links interesting for your OS/2 and eComStation:

http://www.ecomstation.com	- standard eComStation
http://os2warp.be		- drivers, hardware
http://www.ecomstation.ru	- eCS developers and others
http://netlabs.org		- tools and utilities
				  mySQL/2, NEPMD, and many more
http://sourceforge.net/         - tools and utilities not only
				  for OS/2
http://apache.org		- WEB server
http://mozilla.org		- the best WEB browser
           			  mail, news, IRC client
http://mozdev.org		- lots of extensions to mozilla
				  for users and WEB developers




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