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echo: locsysop
to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-04-28 09:32:16
subject: When only the best wil do

RS> I think he might actually a sort of minister, but works as
RS> well. One of his BBSs was Ministry Support Group or close.

RS> I now discover I have forgotten where I heard about his
RS> fundy stuff. It wasnt just the BBS name, I can remember that.

BG> If that way inclined, he certainly doesn't overtly show it,
BG> although I must admit that I've not seen him swear in email,

Yeah, there are a few around, I know a few personally who arent actually
formally ministers but who do say run services when there is no minister
available. Its quite common out here were even the mainstream like the
anglicans and catholics have problems finding enough ministers today. The
local SDAs where I happen to know the minister quite well basically just
charges around the surrounding major towns, only managing to show up for
a service once a month or so. The others do it on the other occasions.

RS> Presumably the bible basher/Jovey end of fundy but I dont know that.

BG> I'm glad you didn't say "harmless evangelist", or similar.

RS> True, someone just recently said to me in email that
RS> the SDAa are 'much less weird, almost mainstream'.

BG> And they're ALL dangerous to those poor gullibles who lack willpower.

True. But then so are the mainstream like catholics etc.

RS> Dickhead never noticed that the Koresh/Waco
RS> loons are actually a subsect of the SDAa.

BG> Is that right!

Yeah. They can be pretty fucking bizarre. They aint alone either,
most of the extreme end of fundys like the Morons have also had their
mindless splits etc, tho they usually arent as dramatic as Koresh.

BG> People who need an emotional crutch or a reason to justify
BG> their brief existence have always worried me a little.

RS> Yeah, specially when they are as far out of their fucking trees
RS> as Koresh. Even before the FBI frizzled the lot, those fucking loons
RS> were actually shooting at each other, literally. A few years before.

BG> The stupid bastards ask for it though, with their Constitution
BG> granting these fringe fundy groups the right to brainwash
BG> people, or otherwise screw up their lives, all whilst
BG> thinly disguised as religious organisations,  Scary stuff.

We actually have an identical guarantee on religious freedom in ours.

And both us and they have flouted that when it has suited us too. The SDAs
were actually banned here during WW2, largely because they were anti war.

BG> Incidentally, for a godless bunch of communists, the Russians
BG> didn't do too badly at all in WWII, when you think about it.

True. The Vikings did all right too |-)

BG> The Mormons are a real worry too, and if you've ever spoken
BG> at length to one of these crazies, or read any of their books,
BG> you'll understand why.  Dead set fucking weird, with a capital W.

RS> True. Corse the other end are pretty fucking weird too, the
RS> Bagwans lot and all those loons as well. Barking mad most of them.

BG> Dunno, the old Bagwan himself isn't what I'd call
BG> overly stupid, with his dozen or so Rolls-Royces,
BG> plus fringe benefits that you or I can only dream of.

Oh sure, but then is that any different to the current Pope ?

I dunno if you realise that anglican bishops actually literally
live in palaces. Corse they aint exactly on the same scale as Liz's
@EOT:

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