-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC> I'll do the low level stuff as root and create a user
 WC> account for myself after I setup my permissions for the use
 WC> of things like printer, network and modem. This should keep
 WC> me out of harms way.

 CA> I'm told that is a wise thing to do. I've never setup a 'user
 CA> account' for myself and have always been 'root' on all of my
 CA> machines since I am the only 'user'. :-)

 CA> I was referring to the necessity to un-mount devices etc.
 CA> rather than the automated way that Windows (and other OS) do it.

I have to alter two files to mount hda1 on boot but have no plans
to do so.
As need arises I'll mount them from root and umount once
I'm done moving files.

 WC> Well the CD you sent is safely tucked away and Knoppix
 WC> installed flawlessly onto my hard drive dual boot. About
 WC> the same installation time as for Win 98!!! Got it dual
 WC> booting as well :-)

 CA> Very good. This should make for a considerable speed difference
 CA> now that it is installed on the hard drive.

Especially when I slap an Ultra 133 I/O card and drive in there :-)
Much happier with Knoppix on the hard drive.

Found Dillo browser is already included as is AbiWord
word processor.
Still prefer Firebird browser though which is included and the same
release I've got in 98 :-)

 WC>>> There's a Linux InfoZip? I use Pkzip 2.50 in DOS here.

 CA>>> Yes, you use pkzip in DOS but you won't have access to
 CA>>> that when using KNOPPIX. ;-)

 WC>> That much I knew, GZIP

 CA> Nope. Neither GZIP nor BZIP are compatible with Pkzip, Infozip
 CA> _is_ compatible with Pkzip though it is not a replacement for
 CA> GZIP or BZIP or BZIP2. You need all of them.

Yeah kinda figured that out afer I hit a Infozip
web site where it's available, and bookmarked.

 CA> Most FIDO BBS will
 CA> be sending you Pkzip'd archives not GZIP'd nor BZIP'd archives.
 CA> :-)

 Wonder if Ross Cassell's Linux based BBS offer a Linux
 native decompression - compression option, I'll check next
 time I'm there.

 Saved a detailed web page on the use of Tar and Gzip. ect.
 Need to snag MultiMail for Linux as well as the home user
 Linux version of F-prot.

 The syntax for telnet transfers is going to take some research
 on my part.
 I've seen references to a BSD - Linux hack of ztelnet
 but as yet no download link.

 SCP stands for Secure Copy and is another possibility I need
 examine to see if it's suitable to this use.

 CA> --8<--cut

 WC> MultiMail binaries are available from William McBrine/s web

 CA> Yes, you need all of the versions of 'zip' in order to
 CA> uncompress various Linux archives but for FIDO only InfoZip
 CA> will generally be of use for compressing/uncompressing echomail
 CA> packets (QWK etc.).

Got it.
Bookmarked a web site it's available at in Linux Firebird.

 CA>> If you intend to _create_ files you will need Windows for
 CA>> the foreseeable future.

 WC> I'll pickup Abiword as word proccessor so I can have MSWord
 WC> compatibility and WP can convert.

 CA> Word processing is only one way to create files. I was thinking
 CA> of graphics file manipulation/creation, sound/music file
 CA> manipulation/creation, and others. :-)

There's a pretty impressive assortment of multimedia, sound,
video and munipulation apps native to Knoppix.

I need to lose the Rockwell sound card - modem combo
and slap the Turtle beach sound card in there before I
try the Audacity MP3, WAV, ect application.
Native T.V. video card app. in there too.

Two of my favorite old arcade video games are there as
well, Galaga and Asteroids.

 WC> The Peanut Linux abbreviated Partition Magic made setting
 WC> this up after scandisk and defrag a breeze but I fdisk'ed
 WC> the drive with ramdrive Basic Linux 1.8.

 CA> Steven did a good job on that mini-install. :-)

 Not having wideband I never could snag the image file :-(
 But the hacked down PM resizer did the job for me and that's
 in the zip package :-)

 Verizon used to allow one to stay online for extended periods
 but now seems to log you off at 5 hours tops even
 with activity :-(
 Time to change providers, it's my 150 Hrs/Mo and I should
 be allowed to chose how I use them!

 WC> Gave the command to launch the interactive GUI script from
 WC> root and off she went like a charm :-) hda1 - Win 98, hda2
 WC> experimental Linux native, hda3 256 Meg swap and hda4 3 Gig
 WC> Linux native for Knoppix.

 WC> So smimplee a cihld kood due it ;-)

 CA> Not quite that simple. You've had time to acclimate yourself to
 CA> the 'hda' and other Linux terminology while using the other
 CA> mini-installs. From ground zero the terminology would be a bit
 CA> of a stumbling block I suspect.

 Intimidation-wise for sure for most but I like
 puzzles and obscure syntax like this... well
 much of the time until it takes me too long to work
 around a snag.

I've still some things to learn from those mini-intalls
and thats why I've got the spare Linux native partition,
later I may tack it on in Knoppix on boot.

 CA>> If you only intend to use other peoples files then you can
 CA>> drop Windows.

 CA>>> Image copies of the partitions would be safer but, yes,
 CA>>> I've done that here for my multiboot to DOS and W2K.

 WC>> I've used xcopy32 with appropriate switches as well.

 CA>> That might work for FAT partitions but won't do much good
 CA>> for the Linux partitions. :-)

 WC> You know that's one of many things I'll have to look into.
 WC> No bother now the man pages and HOW_TO's are on the local
 WC> drive :-)

 CA> Linux only installs manpages for installed binaries (each
 CA> archive of a binary includes it's own manpages).  If the binary
 CA> is not installed you will not find it's manpages either.

I think Knoppix installed *EVERYTHING* here.
Hey I've not even 1/10th explored all the GUI apps on KDE
let alone the command line.

So far all the man pages I've invoked have shown up.

 WC> I may yet delve into that imaging software you mentioned
 WC> I've on the FAT 32 partition when I obtain a second drive.

 CA> Before you can create image copies of your partitions you will
 CA> need another empty drive to write them to. :-)

Right now I'm up to my eyeballs in stuff to do, I think I'll
trust the 6.4 Gig Quantum drive to last two months before I
occupy the spare drive bay with a large drive.

If she crashes and burns no big deal as Knoppix is a snap to
install!
Likely will just do a clean install from the CD anyway, too easy :-)

 CA> BooitNG compresses the image files but I would think that Linux
 CA> can also compress the image on-the-fly as it is being created.
 CA> I _think_ the general consensus has been to use 'dd' for
 CA> creating image files for backup purposes from a Linux install?

I'll do a man dd and check that out :-)

 WC> Next month it's a 56K hardware modem, following month hard
 WC> drive and Ultra 133 drive controller card.

 CA> Hard drive speed (or lack of) is the weak link in the 'chain'
 CA> for many systems.

Know it. February brings a 80 Gig drive and Siig Ultra 133
I/O controller card.

 WC> For March I may change ISP's to 1/2 price local outfit or
 WC> go DSL where I'm at not sure which yet.

 CA> If you're considering going DSL then there is no need for the
 CA> 56k modem. Any decent modem is OK as a 'backup' for emergency
 CA> use once you have DSL.

Five year warrantee on the hardware external I've in mind
and the cost for the local ISP is only 9.95 unlimited
dialup.
BTW the dialer in Knoppix connects and negotiates way faster
than Windows' dialer.

The big attraction to DSL is all the Linux freeware out there
and streaming multimedia.

Just briefly looked but it seems Knoppix may also have an
auto-update feature but that'll wait for a larger partition.

 WC>> SMTP, POP3, Newsgroups and all that's left is telnet and
 WC>> some multimedia apps.

 CA> The Winamp lookalike included with KNOPPIX seems quite good
 CA> here for most music files. I would recommend either CuBase or
 CA> Timidity (I prefer Timidity myself) for MIDI music files (there
 CA> are links to Timidity at my website MIDI page). There are 5 meg
 CA> and 8 meg GUS patch files available for CuBase and Timidity,
 CA> you don't _have_ to use the 30 meg EAW GUS patch files. I vaguely
 CA> remember some talk of a RealAudio Linux app but no name comes
 CA> to mind for that one.

 Audacity?

 CA> I'm still wondering about graphics. I have GIMP from GNU/Win
 CA> here and it's not an easy program to use IMO. I'm looking for
 CA> another user interface that is more familiar (to me).

Got GIMP, haven't used it yet.

 WC>>> Another favorite is "Catch 22", the book not the movie.

 CA> Jon Voight's character

Milo Minderbinder IIRC.

 CA> stealing from the military and trying to
 CA> blackmarket as much as possible is something Putin recently
 CA> mentioned as one of our 'mistakes' in Iraq. Putin said the
 CA> smaller countries contributing military to Iraq were mainly
 CA> such characters who were more interested in stealing artifacts
 CA> and smuggling than in peace keeping. I believe him.

Same here.
 
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