Hola Alex  :)

Wednesday November 27 2002 02:29, Alex Shakhaylo decˇa a Felipe T. Dorado:

 AS>>> How can they feel in case 90% of sysops of z2 cannot influence
 AS>>> Z2C election ?

 FD>> years away." A down to earth one? Because when you were given a node
 FD>> number you were told, or should have been, that this network functions
 FD>> according to the current policy.

 AS> Your answers are reasonable, but still change nothing about the feeling,
 AS> because the feeling is natural. You would feel the same being in the same
 AS> situation, trust me :-)

Accepted  :)  A feeling is a feeling.  More info usually solves that since
certain feelings arise from not seeing or knowing the whole picture.

 FD>>>> What percentage of SysOps there can read English fluently?

 AS>>> Very few :( Though most of them can read and understand making
 AS>>> an effort.

 FD>> Well, that's something quite easily solved. I have the same problem in
 FD>> my region but probably not that serious.

 AS> It is natural, you never were behind the "Iron Certain".

No, but we had to suffer something quite similar over here ... ;)

 AS> Now situation is getting corrected, but it can't be done too
 AS> fast. That is to say 10 years ago there were a few who could
 AS> read English even with efforts.

Ok. With a bit of effort on the part of those of you who can translate
things the communication gap maybe be made smaller little by little.

 FD>> Are the not aware that there
 FD>> are many others in the rest of the planet that feel more or less the
 FD>> same?  Right, tell them.  They don't listen to you?  Want a statement
 FD>> of a few of us here explaining briefly how things are so they
 FD>> understand that it is not a revolt what is needed but proposals in the
 FD>> way current policy states? Sorry no money to give away as blackmail
 FD>> for anyone ;)

 AS> I like your style, Felipe. Let us get one more beer.rar :-)

Thank you.   Prosit!  :)

 FD>> And no _it is not too late_.

 AS> I mean this amendment.

All right.  I'm absolutely confident that the people who put it together
(my contribution was practically insignificant) measured it quite carefully
and exhaustively. Since the current proposal is already on its way to be
accepted, (hope, hope) we could already start talking about the next ;)  It
is already being discussed as you've surely read.

 FD>> Things on a planetary scale take time.
 FD>> Personally I'm most interested in the things they think should be in
 FD>> a new policy.  What are those things?   What if they happen to be the
 FD>> same ones many of us here have in mind?  ...   We just need to know.

 AS> This is very difficult question.  Different people want different changes.
 AS> I can't take the responsibility for all our people and sometimes they want
 AS> the things that are in controversy. If you asked about my personal opinion
 AS> I would be more specific.

I understand.  A brief summary of the main points of view would help.
I am really curious about the opinions of that huge block os SysOps. The
feelings I already have the gist.

 FD>> If you happen to have a list of things your people would like to be
 FD>> changed of the current policy or the main points or guidelines of a
 FD>> new one we most certainly would like to hear about them *_and_* take
 FD>> them into account. 5 or 6 Thousand SysOps can't be ignored!  :) But if
 FD>> most of them can't voice their opinions for themselves someone has to
 FD>> do the job.  I'm afraid you have no choice but to act as ...
 FD>> Coordinator!  }};D

 AS> It's finally happened, happened. Slightly ma-ad.

;)

 AS> All my fidolife I tried to avoid coordinator's position (just imagine
 AS> the net with ~150 nodes, once a week you are getting a complaint, all
 AS> the time you are blamed by somebody for this and for that).

Gosh! 150 Nodes.  No chance of dividing it into chunks :?

 AS> And now you say I have no choice ?!    You wanna kill me as
 AS> communicative and goodhumoured person, do you ? :-)

Yes  };D
I had to jump into the river and undertake the BBS and Node, and a bit
later the NC hat, precisely because unless I did the whole net would have
gone down the drain :(

 AS> Beside of the jokes I'm already trying to advocate my regions here
 AS> and to advocate the rest of the fidonet there. And I'm beaten from
 AS> both sides. 

Yeap. That's a price to pay, yes.  But you are doing the right thing, Alex
:) You happen to be in a position in which you can talk to both sides. You
did not ask for it but if this network is to stay as one then we have to
communicate and agree on some things. Ignorance of other points of view is
always bad.

 AS> Sorry, I cannot be very serious today, my beloved syster has her
 AS> birthday today in Munich. :-)

Feliz cumplea¤os!  to her  :)

Felipe  :)

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