-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC>> /home now exists in /dev/hda2 which is ext2fs and I've got
 WC>> Multimail sitting there for when I get zmodem and set it
 WC>> up.

 CA>> Had to change some environ variables for the boot
 CA>> scripting?

 WC> Not as yet. Currently It saves just fine from the desktop
 WC> as root but it's not yet in /etc/fstab or set as an
 WC> environmenta;l variable as yet. Just kind of hangs out
 WC> there for me to non-destructively experiment with while
 WC> maintaining O.S. integrity. I can specify the path and
 WC> access it that way right now or manually mount it.

 CA> Understood - a failsafe. ;-)

And working quite well in this capacity :-)

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 CA>> I will scout around and try to find the ztelnet and
 CA>> documentation. I think the reason it's hard to locate is
 CA>> that it is actually a BSD binary (originally)?

 WC> Yes, I've run into that bit of info. Gotta start doing my
 WC> own compiles here. Just GCC filename IIRC though it been
 WC> quite some time, say 10 years since I compiled programs in
 WC> Linux.

 CA> I've not lost the working binaries I had used btw.  I don't
 CA> know how compatible it would be with KNOPPIX but I could
 CA> send the working ztelnet and ATP I used with Slackware v3.5
 CA> and see if those work for you on KNOPPIX?

Just file attach them to my e-mail.
Work - don't work, it's worth a shot.

Gunzipped MultiMail and untarred it yesterday but haven't got it up and
running yet.
Downloaded ztelnet release of some sort, FreeBSD, as well as two patches.
FTP in Linux is painless :-)

 CA> For the less-than-mainstream applications compiling source is
 CA> probably the best/only way.

 The ztelnet I snagged supposedly includes the source and at some
 110K I expect that it does.

 CA> FIDO apps are not really
 CA> 'mainstream' software to the rest of the world. Believe it or
 CA> not, many have no idea what zmodem is or why they might even
 CA> want to use it.

Most Windows - IE users.
One of the first things I did upon hooking up a phone line was
setup a dialup to a local BBS, Panther2 under DOS along with SLMR.

 CA> I've always accessed BBS since they were
 CA> ring-backs and it seems odd to me but I guess I'm predjudiced.
 CA> ;-)

 Same.

 WC> Guess you'd have to CHMOD it executable as well.

 CA> Yes, you would.  I was just begining to develop a system for
 CA> determining what values to use with CHMOD and I stopped
 CA> fiddling with Linux. Now I don't remember anymore - must be
 CA> getting old?

 Same here.
 I've a Linux Slackware book here that's handy for syntax.
 I'm impatient but making steady progress.

 CA>> It compiles for Linux though. Howard compiled it for
 CA>> himself and sent me a copy of the binary but I had already
 CA>> found it then just used his instead. :-)

 WC> I'll snag the source code.

 CA> I'll put the copy I have here on my server.  Use:

 CA> http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/dld/ztelnet.gz

Thanks, saved to URL.txt

 CA> Might be helpful if the docs (manpages etc.) are with it. :-)

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 CA>> No Qedit for writing messages but that was a minor
 CA>> problem. 'Joe' under Linux would be a close match for
 CA>> Qedit once I figured out the macro language for Joe. :-)

Having invoked it think I'll use mcedit at first for ease of use
then move to VIM later on.

 WC> thanks for the tips.

 CA> btw: The other upside to 'Joe' is there are other compiles of
 CA> it and DOS has one too. Once you learned it you could use it
 CA> with either OS.

I've got a DOS version of VI.

 CA> --8<--cut

 CA>> It (KNOPPIX) sure does look nice if nothing else. Nothing
 CA>> too shabby about it. ;-)

 WC> Not at all, most impressed here. I want to mess with the
 WC> graphic on the desktop and customise it.

 CA> Should be doable.

Looks dead easy from viewing the relavent file.

RE: digital images.

 CA> I don't recall all the options but around here Meijers stores
 CA> offer many variations of digital photo processing relatively
 CA> cheap too. If you have any photos of your dog that you like
 CA> anyone with a scanner can create a file for you to use/convert
 CA> if necessary. I think Kinkos and others will scan in material
 CA> for a price too?

Don't have either store here locally but perhaps Office Depot or Staples?
I do have some old poloroids from when the pup was much younger.
 
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