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echo: locsysop
to: Niels Petersen
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-04-29 11:31:52
subject: Email

NP> With relation to Teddy's message in AVT re Mail Mover
NP> complaints ( it shows that they do read the echo)

RS> Dunno, some do appear to operate automatic UUCODE detectors.
RS> Its always been one of those things some go completely berko about.

NP> The thing that got me, was that when I pointed out that
NP> BATPOWER carried UUE messages that the answer was "That is
NP> an overseas echo and there is nothing we can do about that"

NP> IOW if they CAN control the WILL control :-(

Yeah, some evidence that some just like to throw their
weight around. Presumably the usual small dick syndrome.

I still remember when I first started Fidomailing getting a
nastygram from one complete prick by the name of Trev Roadhouse,
proclaiming that taglines are completely unthinkable and must
be disabled forthwith. Even he appears to have noticed how
comprehensively he was pissing against the wind on that one now.

He still likes to throw his weight around in Aust_Trading on
trivia like netmail replys etc too. Rather pathetic really.

NP> it may be a good idea to discuss in LOCSYSOP any possible solutions.

RS> Maybe the answer there is a proper TIC file area like Paul has with
RS> Public_Domain, so the pictures can just flow thru that instead of being
RS> in the main echo itself. Tho, since we all can FREQ anyway, maybe the
RS> other approach is to just do the pictures like that off Pauls.

NP> Either way it means Paul as the common central feed ??

Sound like the way to go.

NP> This way the person acting as the carrier is an _active_
NP> participant in AVTECH, and by being so, would make their
NP> own personal interest a security for the continued mail flow.

True.

I've often felt that the black hole problem is most likely just
various mail tossers marking particular packets as BAD and the
mail movers not even bothering to check that stuff too carefully.
So you get occasional blocks of messages binned, and that can
happen virtually randomly in the sense of whose system did it.

Fido aint exactly what you might call robust. As you can see
from the mail flushed due to lack of hard drive space lately.

Corse the internet is even worse on that stuff.

NP> Think about it.!!!! The mail movers are saying that
NP> _they_ don't agree with the content of AVTECH and are
NP> considering non transport because of that content!

RS> Hard to say how much of that is just flaunting their own
RS> importance and how much is real tho outside the UUCODE question.

NP> Yeah that is an unknown, but it smells a bit politicy to me.

True. Hobby groups are absolutely notorious for
mindless politics. Aint human nature grand ?

NP> PS  At the end of April, when all mail has reached it's
NP> destination, I will upload the Excell Spread sheet with
NP> the full listing of message posting to TML I hope to
NP> continue this checking at least for the month of MAY.

RS> Great idea, and I agree about the tool too, a spreadsheet
RS> is by far the most convenient way to do that sort of thing.

NP> It works quite well and even though it is a bit large
NP> (96 columns across) I made the figures foreach pick
NP> up a different colour.  The diferences stand out OK

True, its surprising how many never really look closely enough
at the spreadsheet Parse function too, very handy for quite
a bit of that sort of quick and dirty massaging of data.

NP> I would have liked to do a better job of it but it was a
NP> matter of knocking it up quick and getting the figures into it.

Yeah, way to go IMO.
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