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@Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:39:46 -0400
Subject: Re: ATA Hard Drive - BIG, BAD, & UGLY
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At 11:47 PM 7/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>
>First HD I ever bought was Seagate. Warranty - 12 months. Failure date -
>about 55 weeks. Took over 10 years for me to buy another.
>
>WD - winmodem of hard drives, and dismal reliability to boot. I don't
>think I know anyone locally who hasn't had at least one WD fail within a
>few months of warranty expiration, if not long before.
>
>I've used various benchmarking utilities over the years, including
>Sysbench under OS/2. Maxtor is the only one to outright fail in
>benchmark tests, and nearly every one not directly descended from
>Quantum seems to find a way to do so.
>
>I liked and had good luck with Quantum, but after is absorption into
>Maxtor, I had to look elsewhere for ATA, which led me to IBM. Maxtor
>wasn't making SCSI for a long time before it disappeared into Maxtor.
>Quantum's SCSI technology survived the absorption, so "Maxtor" seems to
>be OK for SCSI.
>
>Having no experience with recend Seagate SCSI, I can't really comment.
>Won't buy one as long as IBM/Hitachi seems OK.

	Anecdotal stories of HD failures and catastrophies usually 
stack up about even.  Every HD manufacturer has about an equal
number of supporters and detractors.

	What made the difference here, simply because we  
pretty much had troubles across the brands, was warranty handling.
IBM's is a sad joke that takes a potentially new defective and
gives you back a refurbed doorstop.  WD is nearly as bad.  The only
company with a "real" system is Seagate.  Not only can you check
the s/n for true remaining warranty (good for used/pulls, and
dealers who fudge), but if you have a failure you can get an RMA 
online, and have a new drive shortly.  If the drive is no longer
available you get a newer/bigger drive, not some refurbed trash.  



>
>The recent Seagate ATA drives are too quiet. I can't tell they're
>running without a stethoscope. That's OK for installation in other
>boxes, but not my own.
>
>
>Felix Miata  ***  http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
>

	I noticed the quiet new drives also.  IMO there is no
difference between the mechanicals on the new ATA and the new SCSI
standard drives.  Real "server duty" SCSI drives may still
be a cut above as they are still a larger form factor.  

Mario

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