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to: August Abolins
from: Paul Quinn
date: 2019-06-04 09:10:00
subject: [SemPoint] Message areas

Hi! August,

On 06/04/2019 01:40 AM, you wrote:

> experimented with the share attached to one of the WinXX pcs and made it
> avaiable for access from the Ubuntu pc.  Worked great.

Kewl.  I did a lot of early work with a coaxial LAN between just two 
Win95/Win98 PCs, maybe even WFWG3.11.

> Martin and I concluded that Sempoint's JAM support is broken.  Are you
> absolutely sure your test message bases are JAM?  ..or did you just try
> MSG for Sempoint testing?

I'm still thinking it's SemPoint's 16-bitness in your modern Windows OSs, 
putting the use of any Windows compatibility or visualization aside.  There was 
one .msg netmail area used along with a dozen-to-fifteen JAM areas (one of 
which might have been netmail, as well).

For simplicity, I went just for the areas SemPoint *already* knew the names of 
for the JAM files.  Newly-created FMail areas and areas with long-ish Linux 
names were ignored.  I stated that kind of wrongly, given your later thoughts.  
All of the areas were created and maintained by FMail, with some using the same 
names as known to my Windows PCs.

My test post was from a JAM base for the FIDOTEST echo.  It didn't succeed 
because I didn't put in enough time to sort out the weirdness with pathnames in 
the SemPoint config for semaphore files, so that my Linux script on the host 
could export it.

> I'm just wondering why JAM messagebases are cooperating for you, but not
> for Martin and me.

Modern OSs.  I used to even have problems with my Win98SE vBox. SemPoint was 
the only program able to send netmail.  In the vBox, GoldEd used to always 
screw up destination addresses... always.

> Also, one of Martin's concerns was that it looks like Sempoint is adding
> "garbage characters" near the Origin line.  You do not notice that in your
> set up?

Nope.

> But.. if you are using Fmail, that might explain many differences. You're
> the only one who reports using Fmail.  Maybe *that's* the difference?

Don't even think about it.  It's no good if you intend to run a NNTP server 
based off of it; it renumbers messages in JAM areas during maint.  Besides 
which, it doesn't know about JAM netmail areas yet.  And, it insists on 
extensively using a Hudson base.

If you were on good speaking terms with FastEcho, then stick with it. Or, if 
you're into sado-masochism then HPT.  Did I say once that CM was the easiest?  
It's /known to work/ in XP...  :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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