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to: STEVE BATSON
from: JERRY JANKURA
date: 1997-03-31 22:27:00
subject: C++ builder/delphi/visual

SB>Hello All,
SB>I am wondering what feedback some of you would have regarding C++ Builder?
I've been hoping to read some other people's feedback, too. I have the
Developer's edition, but I suspect that the real difference between the
$99 version and the Developer's edition is the inclusion of source code
for the VCL's and perhaps a few extra goodies.  I've written one "real"
program in it. That was a program to list the Rodgers MIDI format files
on a diskette (or subdirectory) and the title of the sone it represented.
The interface was quite a bit like either VB or Delphi. If you're good
at writing Delphi code, you won't have any real problems with C++
Builder. One problem I've noticed is that, anytime I attempt to bring up
the HELP function, I get a dialog box indicating an error and allowing
me to either continue or cancel. If I continue, I continue to get the
dialog box. But, if I cancel, the box goes away and the help appears to
work. What's interesting is that this ONLY happens with C++ builder, not
Delphi or other things I request "help" on.
SB>Does anyone have the new $99 version? After programming in several 
languages
SB>over the years (basic, assmebler, C, pascal, VB, Delphi) I have really 
become
SB>fond of Delphi! But, my boss has decided that I need to move on to C++ at 
work
SB>because of the people at work that set the company standards for 
programming
SB>tools. These people likely walk around in a daze with hands extended in 
front
SB>them chanting..."Yes Bill Gates...Yes, oh master...". The company 
tandards
SB>are VB, Visual C++ and a few others I wont mention.
It sounds like you really like Bill. Depending on what you do, I can
understand the suggestion that you look into C++. I've used Borland C++
for a long time and only moved into Delphi because I wanted to try my
hand at Windoze programming. I picked up a copy of C++ Builder when it
first came out because I really prefer C++ to Delphi - Generally, most
machine vision applications are written in C or C++.
SB>While I will continue to use Delphi for my personal development at home 
nd
SB>side projects, I must start using MS Visual Basic and C++. What I am
SB>wondering, is how compatible would the code from C++ builder be with 
isual
SB>C++. It would be a much easier transition from Delphi to C++ builder than 
to
SB>Visual C++. If I could create the code on C++ builder and then sneak it 
over
SB>to Visual C++, I would be much happier.
The basic C++ code ought to be the same, but I'd expect the interface
(i.e. forms) to be completely different. However, I've never really used
MS C++.
SB>Any feedback you have on C++ Builder and the transisition from Delphi 
would be
SB>appreciated. Or, should I just use Visual C++ for work. My other 
alternative
SB>would be to use Visual Basic again and write DLLs in C/C++ (or Delphi and
SB>don't tell my boss...hehehe) to handle routines that need speed or power 
that
SB>VB doesn't offer.
My only comment is that C++ Builder is at Version 1.0 while MSVC++ is
somewhere around version 5.0. If anything, I'd expect MSVC++ to be a
more stable product. I'm running C++ Builder on a 90 Mhz Pentium based
notebook with only 16 Mbytes of memory. It puts a lot of stuff out to
the swap file. You really need MORE memory than I have. I'm not sure how
well MSVC++ would run on my notebook either.
-- Jerry
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On 27 Mar 97 Henk Hamers said to all...
 HH> I was wondering if anybody had routines for the F and T-distribution.
 HH> The thing i need is the actual T-value corresponding with a
 HH> probability and N. thanx in advance...
Hi, Henk.  I'm a retired statistician, and I have a pile of that kind of
Pascal code lying around. Contact me via netmail or as bsmith@king.igs.net
if you can (so we don't go off-topic!), and we will see what I can find for
you.
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