RB> my v34+ courier has done it on 50% of the test calls that I did to his
RB> Netcom.

BG> Shit, really?  Mine sometimes connects at 26400, but always with EC.

RB> Thought I don't call him often, so 50% of I suppose  20 calls

Rod, did you get any non-EC connects?  Of course we both know that
it's simply user-error on the part of the Courier callers that any
failed negotiation should ever happen, I was just interested in how
often you made the same user-error?  BTW, I think the USR user-error
in this case is neglecting to type in 
ATstop-my-USR-being-an-expensive-shit-box

BFN.  Paul.
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