PE> You don't actually know, since you've never tried Binkley 2.60.  I
PE> bet I am right.

BG> Oh come on Paul, the modem dials, the remote answers, it hears the STD 
BG> pips, it drops carrier and redials.  Every time it does that, Telstra 
BG> charges me a 12c connection fee.  It soon adds up, too.  That's with BTPE 

PE> Read what I said.  "You don't actually know, since you've never tried
PE> Binkley 2.60".  You said above "it doesn't behave like
Binkley 2.60".
PE> I don't believe you.  I bet I am right, and you will have the same
PE> problem with Binkley 2.60.

BG> Then it's about time you learned how to speak English, as far too much of 
BG> your stuff is cryptic to the point of unintelligibility.  I'm not a fucking 
BG> mind reader, you know.

Bill, which bit of "since you've never tried Binkley 2.60" is not
proper English?  Before you reply, just spend 15 seconds having a
think about whether it just MIGHT have a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY that 
it is actually your English comprehension skills that need brushing
up on.

BG> 4.0, which I thought was your recompile of Binkley 2.60.  If not, what is 
BG> it?

PE> It is.  And I bet it behaves identically.  If you try out 2.60, and
PE> it does the same thing, can you ask the question in BINKLEY, as a
PE> problem with 2.60, so that you might get the proper answer.

BG> Couldn't be bothered.  I don't have BINKLEY tagged, nor do I have any 
BG> desire to do so.  If 2.60 is fucked, I'll simply go back to an earlier 
BG> version.  No skin off my nose at all.

2.60 may not be fucked, it may have changed behaviour.  I don't
actually know.  All I know is that the code looks fine to me, but
the documentation says something I don't understand, and in either
case I don't know what the magic number is.

PE> Just disable busy-detect for all calls in the meantime anyway,
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
PE> why do you care?  Binkley will redial anyway.  BFN.  Paul.

BG> But only after the modem times out, say 60 seconds.  I want it to recognise 

PE> Sounds like the end of the world to me.

BG> Funny, you're the first to complain if something doesn't work properly.

Yes, you are right.  But you will notice that I haven't denied that
there is a problem with Modemtrans, all I've said is that I don't
know whether it is a bug or what.  I DON'T KNOW.  IN THE MEANTIME, I
suggested a WORKAROUND, which is quite acceptable.  To solve the
original problem (if you are interested in solving the original
problem), I need to know the behaviour of 2.60, and the results of a
question in BINKLEY.

BG> BUSY and redial immediately, just like a decent modem should.  Only hppens 

PE> A decent modem would detect BUSY.

BG> It does.  Trouble is, is also occasionally thinks the STD pips is a BUSY 
BG> response as well.  Not unusual on a US modem, USR or otherwise.

Pity you never mentioned this before, I thought the USR was perfect.
Rod's Supra presumably doesn't have the same problem.  The problem
never happened to me though.  Which may have been because I used
Optus.  Different people experience different problems, you see, 
because not everyone's use is identical.  Most never even use their
modem to answer the phone.

BG> when dialling STD via your exchange too.  Other STD calls work just fine.

PE> A decent mdoem would detect BUSY.

BG> So would a decent exchange.

Do you work for Maestro by any chance?

PE> Anyhow, I thought you were switching to Optus?  Optus doesn't have pips.  

BG> Optus is also slightly more expensive with my dialling habits.

I was surprised when you said you were moving to Optus.

PE> BTW, you were very lucky relying on the V32b.  I sent in a message to my NC 
PE> to get V34 added, which he seems to have done without disabling V32b.  Very 
PE> lucky indeed.

BG> No big deal, if worst came to worst, I'd perform the ModemTrans on your 
BG> name instead of the flags.  All I need is some difference between yours and 
BG> Dave's flags, and I can use that anyway, regardless of what it is.

Why don't you do that then?  It would seem my name is a far more
logical thing to do a match on than whether a system has "V32b"
as a flag?!  BFN.  Paul.
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