BG> I'm not convinced that I did see 28800/NONE with the Viper (and I certainly  

Well that's what you told me anyway.

BG> couldn't have with the Thunder anyway).  

Failed EC you sure did.

BG> Furthermore, everybody has been 
BG> blaming my poor lines for that problem, 

No we haven't.  The problem is defective code in at least one modem,
and substandard code in BOTH modems.

BG> yet now that David is seeing it, 
BG> that theory has gone straight out the window.  

It was never in our house.  Only idiots don't bother using logic
and science.

BG> Funny thing is that it 
BG> hasn't happened here since I replaced the EPROM.  Not once.

That's because it's a code problem.  I told you that a long time
ago.  Modems should NOT get a 28800 no-EC.  If the lines are bad,
they should get 16800 EC, 14400 EC, 12000 EC, 9600 EC, 4800 EC,
2400 EC, 1200 EC, 300 EC.  Understand now?  EC should always be
negotiated, even on bad lines.  That's the whole point of EC, to
fix errors in bad lines.  And do you understand the other half?
28800 is not a speed that is achieved on bad lines.  28800 is a
speed that is achieved on excellent lines.

Do you understand yet?  BFN.  Paul.
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