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to: John Cuccia
from: Rich
date: 2004-06-03 08:27:48
subject: Re: app startup locations

From: "Rich" 

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   The policy keys are valid.  They are used for (surprise) group =
policy.  If you don't use group policy or have your policy configure run =
values than the key won't exist or have any entries.

   I have seen trojans use this as well as the others below.  I've never =
heard of or seen use of subkeys.

Rich

  "John Cuccia"  wrote in message =
news:6s7ub0lala87lkqvkd7qk4cb5tunn6dnt6{at}4ax.com...
  Neither have I.  I just did a quick check of one of our W2K servers
  and the Policies\Explorer\Run keys weren't there,=20

  Of course that doesn't mean anything except that they did not exist on
  that particular machine.  I wonder if Rich could tell us if they are
  valid reg entries?


  On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 05:58:19 -0400, "Geo."  wrote:

  >the policies keys are the ones I've never seen listed before.
  >
  >Geo.
  >
  >"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
  >news:do8sb0phg2c2mjj4pu9gn34dmttqs6vdto{at}4ax.com...
  >> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:45:06 -0400, "Geo."
 wrote:
  >>
  >> >It turns out that W2K has a "feature" not shared
by any other MS =
O/S
  >> >
  >> >-- it launches any program in any subkey of (at least) six keys:
  >> =
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run
  >> >HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
  >> >HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
  >> =
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run
  >> >HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
  >> >HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
  >>
  >> I don't think the above is true. I vaguely recall W95 and NT4 =
having
  >> those registry keys (except maybe the first one). XP definitely has
  >> them.
  >>
  >>
  >> >This would simply be a curiosity except that I can't find a single
  >> >third party utility (other than the Silent Runners script) that
  >> >identifies programs located in such subkeys.
  >>
  >> I don't think this is true either. I believe they are exposed by =
(at
  >> least) TweakUI and I know I've seen other utilities report them.
  >>
  >>
  >

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   The
policy keys are =
valid.  They=20
are used for (surprise) group policy.  If you don't use group = policy or=20
have your policy configure run values than the key won't exist or have = any=20
entries.
 
   I have
seen trojans use =
this as well=20
as the others below.  I've never heard of or seen use of=20
subkeys.
 
Rich
 

  "John Cuccia" <jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>">mailto:jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com">jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:6s7ub0lala8=
7lkqvkd7qk4cb5tunn6dnt6{at}4ax.com...Neither=20
  have I.  I just did a quick check of one of our W2K =
serversand the=20
  Policies\Explorer\Run keys weren't there, Of course that =
doesn't mean=20
  anything except that they did not exist onthat particular =
machine.  I=20
  wonder if Rich could tell us if they arevalid reg =
entries?On=20
  Thu, 3 Jun 2004 05:58:19 -0400, "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> =
wrote:>the=20
  policies keys are the ones I've never seen listed=20
 
before.>>Geo.>>"John
Cuccia" <jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>">mailto:jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com">jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>
wrote =
in=20
  =
message>news:do8sb0phg2c2mjj4pu9gn34dmttqs6vdto{at}4ax.com...>=
>=20
  On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:45:06 -0400, "Geo." <fake{at}barkdom.com>=20">mailto:fake{at}barkdom.com">fake{at}barkdom.com>=20
  wrote:>>>> >It
turns out that W2K has a =
"feature" not=20
  shared by any other MS O/S>>
>>> >-- it =
launches any=20
  program in any subkey of (at least) six keys:>>=20
  =
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run<=
BR>>>=20
 
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run>>=20
 
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce>>
=

  =
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run<=
BR>>>=20
 
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run>>=20
  =
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce>>>>=20
  I don't think the above is true. I vaguely recall W95 and NT4=20
  having>> those registry keys (except maybe the
first one). =
XP=20
  definitely has>>
them.>>>>>>
=
>This=20
  would simply be a curiosity except that I can't find a =
single>>=20
  >third party utility (other than the Silent Runners script)=20
  that>> >identifies programs located in such=20
  subkeys.>>>> I don't
think this is true either. I =
believe=20
  they are exposed by (at>> least) TweakUI and I know I've =
seen other=20
  utilities report=20
them.>>>>>

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